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    First ten guys off the list here.

    16. Jody Strittmatter (DNW/DNW/3/2) 63-7, 10-2 NCAA's

    Strittmatter is a guy who I worry that I may possibly have ranked a little bit too low just as a result of him being one of the few people on this list that I never got to see wrestle. Came into Iowa as a junior out of Pitt-Johnstown and really performed well over his last two years.

    Was the #1 seed going into NCAA's as a junior but lost to eventual champion Steve Garland in the quarters before wrestling back for 3rd. As a senior he lost to one of the all time great lightweights Stephen Abas 13-10 in the finals.

    17. Ryan Churella (DNP/3/4/2) 110-17, 15-6 NCAA's

    While the furor over the match has kind of died down over time there are some people who still may make the argument that Churella shouldn't be on this list because he should have won his famous NCAA final match against Johny Hendricks. That loss put a damper on what had been a fantastic season as he was undefeated going into that finals match. Won the Big 10 each of his last three years.

    Made the jump from 149 up to 165 after his sophomore year in a move that would be replicated by Eric Tannenbaum two years afterward.

    18. Cory Cooperman (DNP/7/3/3) 99-12, 17-4 NCAA's


    Had Cooperman managed to beat Andy Simmons in the quarterfinals as a junior he'd be at least one spot higher on this list if not more due to the Craig Brester corollary that I'll explore when Brester pops up on the list. Other than that loss to Simmons I don't think he dropped a match over his last two years to guys other than Nate Gallick or Teyon Ware both of whom had established themselves as just better than everyone else at the weight.

    After losing at NCAA's as a junior and senior Cooperman utterly laid waste to his consolation bracket winning all six of his consolation matches over those two years by bonus points.

    19. Kyle Ott (DNP/2/2/DNP) 78-21, 11-4 NCAA's

    Kyle Ott is someone who were it not for his injury issues would likely be higher on this list (or better yet he may not be on this list at all). Was a surprise finalist as a sophomore before getting tech falled in the finals by Jason Powell. As a junior he made it through a tougher side of the bracket than he had the year prior including a win in the semi's against Nick Simmons in overtime before losing to Joe Dubuque.

    As a senior he got knocked out in the first round of the tournament by Mike Sees, wrestled back to the Round of 12 but wound up getting eliminated by Chad Mendes.

    20. Otto Olson (DNP/2/3/5) 162-27, 13-4 NCAA's

    Similar to Strittmatter (and maybe even more so) Olson is a guy I worry that I'm placing too low because of the fact that I never saw him. He's a guy who was in college forever due to persistent struggles with injuries. Lost to Glenn Pritzlaff when he made the final as a sophomore.

    The fact that his placement declined each year is something that I downgraded him with a little here too.

    21. Hudson Taylor (DNP/3/3/4) 165-28, 20-6 NCAA's

    Taylor has the most wins both in his career and at NCAA's of anyone here on the list. Lost to the eventual champion Phil Davis as a sophomore before dominating his way back to 3rd place. Matched his 3rd place finish the next year by taking a little bit more of an indirect road after getting pinned in :40 in the second round.

    Had his most successful run on the top side of the bracket as a senior when he made the semi's, but wound up losing to Craig Brester in a close one in the semi's and then dropping a match in OT to Cam Simaz for 3rd.

    Gets another bump here due to his 80+ career fall number.

    22. JD Bergman (3/DNP/4/2) 129-36, 18-6 NCAA's

    Bergman gets slotted here below Taylor even with his advantage of having made the finals because of his habit of losing his first match at NCAA's over his first three years. He very impressively wrestled all the way back to the consolation finals as a freshman and a junior (was 1-2 as a sophomore getting eliminated by Chris Skretkowicz).

    Was always a very big 197. Moved up to heavyweight as a senior where he was very successful, spending some time during the year ranked #1 in the country. Would drop matches in both the Big 10 and NCAA finals to Dustin Fox who was just too big for him to do anything with.

    23. Phillip Simpson (DNP/3/8/2) 134-19, 16-7 NCAA's

    Simpson gets a boost here for wrestling so well at a non-major program, and even more impressive he put his three All American finishes up at three different weight classes. He wrestled at 141 as a sophomore, 157 as a junior, and then cut down to 149 as a senior where he'd go on to make the finals before losing to Zack Esposito.

    As a senior he put up one of the better NCAA brackets by someone who didn't win as he won all of his matches by bonus points (including a major in the semi's over Dustin Manotti who you'll see in a future edition of this list).

    24. Josh Churella (8/DNP/2/4) 110-21, 14-8 NCAA's

    Get our second Churella in on the list here. Josh was a part of some brutal weight classes over the course of his career. Was a very big 141 his first two years and you may be able to chalk his under performing at NCAA's as a freshman and sophomore up to that issue. Lost on a last second TD in the Round of 12 as a sophomore.

    After moving up lost in OT to Gregor Gillespie in the finals as a junior and was super close to getting the winning takedown in that match before Gillespie scrambled away. As a senior wrestling in the epically tough 08 149 bracket, dropped two close matches to Jordan Burroughs. Avenged a loss to Darrion Caldwell on the bottom side of the bracket.

    25. Jared Rosholt (DNP/4/3/2) 127-24, 15-6 NCAA's

    Debated between several guys here before deciding on Rosholt. Came in as a freshman wrestling as a very small heavyweight, but performed pretty well. Unfortunately for him in the first round at NCAA's that year he drew eventual champion Cole Konrad.

    Was at least a quarterfinalist at NCAA's each of his last three years as he improved his placement each year. Lost a one point match in the semi's to eventual champion Dustin Fox as a sophomore, and then lost a razor tight match in the finals last year to Zabriskie.
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    RIP Jacob Schlottke - 1984-2011

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    I saw Stritmatter wrestle against Minny several times. He did to LeRoy Vega, what McD does to Sanders. Vego was a very exciting, fast, aggressive, and small 125 pounder and simply was stimied by Strittmatter's length and leverage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    First ten guys off the list here.

    16. Jody Strittmatter (DNW/DNW/3/2) 63-7, 10-2 NCAA's

    Strittmatter is a guy who I worry that I may possibly have ranked a little bit too low just as a result of him being one of the few people on this list that I never got to see wrestle. Came into Iowa as a junior out of Pitt-Johnstown and really performed well over his last two years.

    Was the #1 seed going into NCAA's as a junior but lost to eventual champion Steve Garland in the quarters before wrestling back for 3rd. As a senior he lost to one of the all time great lightweights Stephen Abas 13-10 in the finals.
    Garland wasn't the champ that year, he made the finals but lost to (i believe) Jeremy Hunter.

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    Gantry is right. Garland never won a title.
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    You guys are right, but in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really make a huge difference.
    RIP Jacob Schlottke - 1984-2011

    "If Cornell finishes ahead of Iowa with five all americans I'll jump into the Des Moines River after finals." -Herkey#1 8/16/12

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    First ten guys off the list here.

    16. Jody Strittmatter (DNW/DNW/3/2) 63-7, 10-2 NCAA's
    As a senior he lost to one of the all time great lightweights Stephen Abas 13-10 in the finals.
    Is this video around somewhere?

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    11. Eric Tannebaum (4/6/4/2) 125-28, 17-8 NCAA's

    Became the second middleweight for the Wolverines to make the jump from 149 up to 165 as a junior. Tann was a guy who was kind of erratic as a sophomore but still managed to become an All American. He was markedly more consistent once he moved up to 165 as a senior.

    Had a good rivalry with Mark Perry as they exchanged wins particularly as seniors with Tannenbaum winning in the Big 10 final before Perry reversed the result at NCAA's. I remember thinking as a junior Tannenbaum was going to be the best candidate to possibly unset Johny Hendricks due to his style, but Hendricks came out the better in the NCAA semi's before going on to lose to Perry in the final.

    12. Craig Brester (DNP/4/2/2) 109-21, 15-6 NCAA's

    Mentioned the Craig Brester corollary when talking about Cooperman in the last part of the list. What I was trying to describe was a situation where a wrestler was just utterly dominant against everyone in his weight class except for one (or perhaps two) person. In Cooperman's case it was Gallick and Ware, Brester's nemesis on the other hand was Jake Varner.

    Over his last two years Brester only lost one match (5-2 to Clayton Foster) to someone other than Varner, and he really just killed guys that he wrestled. Managed to knock off Varner in the Big 12 finals as a senior and go into NCAA's as the #1 seed but lost his first final to Varner.

    13. Mack Lewnes (4/DNP/2/4) 150-12, 12-7 NCAA's

    Mack Lewnes sits here as one of the most interesting guys in my mind to kind of look at from a historical perspective. He's a guy who didn't lose a regular season match for 2.5 years. Read that sentence again. Over half of his career losses came at the NCAA tournament.

    Hit his peak as a junior when he rolled into a match up against fellow undefeated competitor Jay Borschel in the finals but was beaten pretty handily.

    14. Vertus Jones (DNP/2/3/2) 95-21, 14-5 NCAA's

    I talked about possibly putting Jody Strittmatter and Otto Olson too low on the last part of the list just because they were two guys that I didn't really know a lot about, but that (not having seen a guy) may be an even bigger problem here in terms of placing Vertus Jones. Elder brother to eventual 3x NCAA champ Greg, and Donnie he obviously had a very quality career making two finals and adding an additional third place finish.

    Those two finals that he made though didn't turn out particularly well for him though as he fell 17-0 to Mitch Clark as a sophomore, and 19-6 to Cael Sanderson as a senior. I'll welcome opinions on where Vertus Jones should rank on this list as I continue to progress with things.

    15. Dustin Manotti (8/4/6/3) 135-26, 17-9 NCAA's

    Manotti comes in here as the lowest ranking 4x All American on the list. Just an incredibly solid but not necessarily spectacular performer for Cornell over the course of his career wrestling at 149 his first three years before moving up to 157 as a senior. Its at the NCAA tournament as a senior where he achieved arguably his most notable accomplishment when he got knocked off in the first round before running all the way through the consolations to place 3rd.
    RIP Jacob Schlottke - 1984-2011

    "If Cornell finishes ahead of Iowa with five all americans I'll jump into the Des Moines River after finals." -Herkey#1 8/16/12

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    Not that it changes anything but Brester beat Varner as a junior; Varner was undefeated as a senior.
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