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    Bubba was usually broken mentally before he even stepped on the mat with Metcalf. Bubba knew that if he had any shot at winning he needed to put Metcalf on his back early. It of course never happened and once the scoring started the flood gates opened.

    The only way for Dake to stay with Metcalf is for him to follow the stall formula. Stay away as long as you can and try for one takedown late...Then run some more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Don't want to get into a Metcalf pissing match, but Metcalf led Bubba by the end of the first period in, I believe, 3 of their 4 matches, or 4 of 5, can't remember exactly how many they had. Bubba twice had a lead early in the first period, but not sure if you can totally blame it on conditioning in the first period. Metcalf usually ran itu p by the end due to conditioning, but he also often controlled early, too.
    Zapp (and Herkey): I knowing I'm treading on hollow ground talking about any vulnerability in Metcalf. Let me repeat that I pick Metcalf to win among the champions of the past 5 years. All I'm saying is that fast, slick wrestlers have the style that has the best chance of beating him. Caldwell is obviously the best example because he did it twice. Jenkins did show more ability than most others in taking him down at times with that style (albeit with lop-sided losses at the end). And my point is that I don't think Dake would beat him.

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    Tom, I think we all agree. Where we differ is that I think you may think that Bubba's matches with Metcalf were closer than they actually were though.
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    Bubba did put Metcalf on his personal list of guys who gave him his worst a$$ beating in his drunk (but entertaining) video.

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    Default Re: Kyle Dake (11) vs Brent Metcalf (10)

    I think if they wrestled 10 times Metcalf wins 8 or 9 times. Sort of like he did vs Palmer. Maybe these guys meet in WTT but I doubt that Dake stays down at Metcalf's weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    Tom, I think we all agree. Where we differ is that I think you may think that Bubba's matches with Metcalf were closer than they actually were though.
    Herkey--I'll try one more time, as I gather I'm not communicating clearly. I fully agree that Metcalf dominated Jenkins as a final result in every match. I'm looking at what kind of style can give Metcalf more trouble. The first time they met Jenkins had a sizeable lead in the first period (took him down 2 or 3 times) and then eventually was pinned. In the NCAA finals he took him down twice in the first period and was up 4-1. A combination of Metcalf's mental toughness, conditioning, and skill wore Jenkins down and he dominated him from there on. But, not many guys even got that far with Metcalf. His quick slickness gave Metcalf some problems until his gas tank went on empty and Metcalf's toughness took over. Again--I agree that Metcalf beats him almost every time. But Jenkins' style gave Metcalf more problems than most other wrestlers. That's all I'm saying. Caldwell is obviously the best example of my point, but I threw Bubba in as another example with a similar style (albeit somewhat flawed).

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    If it would of been a Cornell vs Iowa match than Metcalf wins but on the big stage Kyle wins this...............He is at a different level at the Nationals.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by puddys View Post
    If it would of been a Cornell vs Iowa match than Metcalf wins but on the big stage Kyle wins this...............He is at a different level at the Nationals.............
    Yeah, Metcalf's career really shows a deficiency on the big stage.
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    (Yeah, Metcalf's career really shows a deficiency on the big stage.)

    That is a true statement Caldwell spanked him on the big stage.

    He did win last year but it was a close decision against Palmer


    Kyle wins this if its the finals at the NATIONALS..........

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