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    125-Troy Nickerson Cornell (2009). The technician over Robles here.Not sure about this one though.
    133- Matthew Valenti Penn (2007) underrated guy.
    141-J Jaggers Ohio State (2009) Had a target on his back and did it again. Prime time guy that beats the Dake of 141.
    149-Brent Metcalf Iowa (2010). Beats the Caldwell of 2009 and Dake of 2011.
    157-Jordan Burroughs Nebraska (2009). Beats Leen in semis, Poeta in finals.
    165-Jordan Burroughs Nebraska (2011). Pure Beast. Second best on this entire list, all weights.
    174-Ben Askren Missouri (2007). Best on this entire list, all weights.
    184-Jake Herbert Northwestern (2009) Easily the best in this weight.
    197-Phil Davis Penn State (2008). Something in my head is saying he beats Varner, though I have nothing concrete to back it up.
    Hwt-Cole Konrad Minnesota (2007). No brainer.

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    I'm surprised so many people are picking Phil Davis over Varner. While I prefer Davis' style for viewing purposes, I don't see how he would have beaten Varner. He dropped a match that year to Tamillow who is very good, but nowhere near as solid as Jake his senior year. Senior year Davis against junior year Varner would be an interesting match, but senior year Varner is a heavy favorite in my opinion. Jake made the world team before his senior year, and though it was in a weak weight class, I don't think a single offensive point was scored on him at US Open and possibly also at WTT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    Right. And I'm of the opinion that someone who can get a tech in the finals might be an elite 141 and able to best some of the others.
    1) His tech fall was against Ryan Lang, and largely the result of a huge stylistic advantage. Lang kept rolling to his back and forcing wild action the way he like to, and Moore was just better at rolling around and capitalized on Lang's craziness. It's not like Moore was demolishing everyone that day. I think most of his wins were by decision in that tourney.

    2) See what bwh27 said about Mitch Clark.

    3) Yeah Moore was good and a finals tech fall is an awesome feat, but there are others more impressive IMO. Jaggers won it twice and was quite dominant in his second tournament. Russell has been such a good wrestler for so long that he is a 3X Big Ten Champ, 2X #1 seed at the NCAA Tournament, and the other time, his true frosh year, he was the #3 seed. He just finally put it together this year.

    Moore is fine if you want to pick him because of one terrific match, but there's definitely plenty of reason for others to be favored.


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    I personally always like to pick one underdog, Moore was it. Jaggers would more than likely win it... he loved those primetime lights. I'll stick with my one underdog upset....

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    I have nowhere near have the credentials of most of the people posting but I'll throw my 2 cents in

    125- Escobedo, a fully healthy Escobedo is incredible to watch. Hard to pick him over Nickerson but Escobedo has beaten guys like Colemon Scott in freestyle
    133- Oliver, Colemon Scott was my idol since his freshman year but Oliver was untouchable this year
    141- Jaggers (09), I trust him in a match far more then I trust Dake who is unbeatable only in crunch time, and Russell who keeps matches too close and I personally know the folly in that
    149- Caldwell, I believe Brent Metcalf is easily one of the greatest wrestlers we have seen in awhile, but Caldwell just had something else that not even Metcalf could match
    157- Paulson, Probably the hardest weight to choose a winner. I'll be honest, I mostly just don't want to put Burroughs twice
    165- Burroughs, I watched him hit it again and again. Nobody, not even Mark Perry, can stop his double.
    174- Askren, I'll take this moment to bring up that Chris Pendleton had Ben Askren's number when they wrestled
    184- Herbert (09), Jake just straight up dominates everyone here
    197- Varner (10), I flirted with going out on a limb with Killgore and his ungodly strength, but settled with Varner
    HWT- Konrad, I used to be mesmerized watching Mocco and Konrad wrestle, and ive been bored with heavyweights ever since
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    That reminds me, I wonder how many people would pick Pendleton over Askren his junior and/or senior year. Personally, I would not, although I'd pick Pendleton over everyone else at 174.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwh27 View Post
    That reminds me, I wonder how many people would pick Pendleton over Askren his junior and/or senior year. Personally, I would not, although I'd pick Pendleton over everyone else at 174.
    I would. He also beat Askren in freestyle after they had graduated. I think he just had Askren figured out, the same way the Paulsons kind of did it post-college even though Askren was the superior wrestler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwh27 View Post
    That reminds me, I wonder how many people would pick Pendleton over Askren his junior and/or senior year. Personally, I would not, although I'd pick Pendleton over everyone else at 174.
    I would not. Askren didn't quite have his style completely down when he went against Pendleton and it showed. I think Askren gets him.

    Askren not nearly as good a freestyle wrestler as he is a folk wrestler.

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