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    Quote Originally Posted by chocell View Post
    I'll give you a hint... tatoos signal mental weakness to me. I always looked forward to wrestling guys with tatoos in high school, they were usually insecure with a lot of false bravado.
    Thanks for the hint. I now know that Anthony Robles, Jordan Oliver, Kellen Rusell, Bubba Jenkins, Jordan Burroughs, Jon Reader, and Zach Rey are among the most mentally weak wrestlers out there. How they all won national titles with tattoos is beyond me.
    To avoid criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing.

  2. #20

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    Vais--I'm not a tatoo fan, but that's a great post!

  3. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chop View Post
    You all need to stay within the context of the topic. After QW lost to Steinhaus and Grant Gambrall I posted that I didn't think his shoulder was the problem it was his mental frame of mind. When QW was asked to discuss the ups and downs this year he basically said he wasn't mentally into the wrestling because he was mad at the coaches and so on. He said his team and community helped him get over the hump with not having fun wrestling anymore. I NEVER said QW was mentally weak at this tourny or any other tourny for that matter. I still stand by my opinion that he was mentally weak while wrestling Steinhaus and Gambrall. QW said it himself last night as well.
    If a person is new to this site, like I am, I wouldn't have any idea that the OP's topic was giving you a hard time for a post you made earlier in the year. If he doesn't put that in context in his original post there is no way people to know that. You know what they say about assumptions. So for everybody but you it's a new topic.
    I think the word WEAK is a poor choice of words even in the context in which you use it. If a guy is going through a tough time mentally it doesn't mean he is weak. Just like a guy who is injured physically isn't weak. The word weak has a negative connotation in this context that isn't warranted. Being mentally weak would be someone who, when faced with adversity, had a tendency to give up and to be defeated by his adversity. With Q, when he went through adversity, he sought ways to overcome it and tried even harder and put in more effort. I think that is why people are having a problem with the whole WEAK comment. Poor choice of words.

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    I agree with everything snackem said. Robles got his points and then stalled, stalled, and stalled. The seeding comittee wanted to make sure he got the easiest bracket and espn fell all over him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grimreaper View Post
    I agree with everything snackem said. Robles got his points and then stalled, stalled, and stalled. The seeding comittee wanted to make sure he got the easiest bracket and espn fell all over him.
    My post was a bit tongue in cheek. He did get his points then stall, but what is he supposed to do? Roll around and let McD catch him on his back?
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  6. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    Thanks for the hint. I now know that Anthony Robles, Jordan Oliver, Kellen Rusell, Bubba Jenkins, Jordan Burroughs, Jon Reader, and Zach Rey are among the most mentally weak wrestlers out there. How they all won national titles with tattoos is beyond me.
    Touche' - I'm no keyboard warrior. The only ones that I really noticed were Jordan Oliver and Bubba Jenkins. I didn't mean to imply that any of these champions are mentally weak, only that the tatooed champions may be more mentally weak than their untatooed counterparts. Obviously to be a NCAA Div I champ, you have to have it all - talent, skill, and both physicaly and mental strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snackem View Post
    My post was a bit tongue in cheek. He did get his points then stall, but what is he supposed to do? Roll around and let McD catch him on his back?
    Thank goodness. I figured yours was sarcastic, that's why I posted what I did when I replied to it. I was rooting for McD, but I got sick of hearing all the reasons why Robles got seeded first, too. No matter how you look at it, he earned it and it came down to the matchup everyone wanted in the end anyway.

  8. #26

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocell View Post
    Touche' - I'm no keyboard warrior. The only ones that I really noticed were Jordan Oliver and Bubba Jenkins. I didn't mean to imply that any of these champions are mentally weak, only that the tatooed champions may be more mentally weak than their untatooed counterparts. Obviously to be a NCAA Div I champ, you have to have it all - talent, skill, and both physicaly and mental strength.
    Since 7 of the 10 champs had tattoos, and it's been a trend for years, I cannot honestly figure out how you created such a correlation other than you having a prior bias against people with tattoos.

    I don't have one, and will never have one, but I don't care if a guy wants one and don't think it really means they are "mentally weak"
    To avoid criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing.

  9. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by grimreaper View Post
    I agree with everything snackem said. Robles got his points and then stalled, stalled, and stalled. The seeding comittee wanted to make sure he got the easiest bracket and espn fell all over him.
    So?

    Stalling isn't a moral failing, it's a strategic decision that may or may not work well depending on the situation. Robles scored plenty of points when he needed them, and if he thought sitting on the lead was a good strategy I agree with him. He got penalized already, and even if he got penalized two or three times still a good plan.

    Hard to complain about Robles' #1 seed afterwards, when he beats the #2 guy by a lot of points.

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