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    i have no problems w/ dake being seeded at #4. molinaro has a better chance to beat caldwell than dake does imo. either way, we might get a chance to see both matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joony View Post
    i have no problems w/ dake being seeded at #4. molinaro has a better chance to beat caldwell than dake does imo. either way, we might get a chance to see both matches.
    I disagree. Molinaro, while being a very good wrestler, is the kind of guy that a 100% Caldwell destroys. The heavy hands/strength game Frank relies on just doesn't work on Caldwell, he is able to manhandle those who usually do the manhandling-see Metcalf, and Palmer, two very physical wrestlers. I am not sure what type of wrestling beats a healthy Caldwell but Frank's game is not it. I've got to pick Dake as being more likely than Molinaro to beat Caldwell at this point based on his scrambling ability. If Caldwell shows up looking like he did in his conf. final...maybe a different story.

    That said, I don't have much of a problem with Dake at #4, even though he did beat Frank earlier this year. He is too inconsistent and he has had motor issues all year. I don't get how he can look so good some days and then look out of shape the next. I think this kid needs to stop growing, settle into a weight, and get into good, good shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldfart View Post
    I disagree. Molinaro, while being a very good wrestler, is the kind of guy that a 100% Caldwell destroys. The heavy hands/strength game Frank relies on just doesn't work on Caldwell, he is able to manhandle those who usually do the manhandling-see Metcalf, and Palmer, two very physical wrestlers. I am not sure what type of wrestling beats a healthy Caldwell but Frank's game is not it. I've got to pick Dake as being more likely than Molinaro to beat Caldwell at this point based on his scrambling ability. If Caldwell shows up looking like he did in his conf. final...maybe a different story.
    I agree with that competely. You are one smart individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    I agree with that competely. You are one smart individual.
    Well, read some of my past predictions and you might change your mind on that. But in this case, I have some pretty significant previous match-ups to reference so it seems pretty apparent to me that a Molinaro/Healthy Caldwell match-up would end up being either a very long, or a very short day for the tank.

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    Frank has been practicing more against Taylor in the room to get used to someone longer then him as both Caldwell & Dake are. If he can finish his shots unlike the Scuffle final Frank will be tough to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gantry View Post
    Quite frankly that is more shocking than Robles at #1, or at least on par with it. Surprised Molinaro got the #2 seed, but he'll have to avenge a loss to Mason to make the semis.
    Is it really avenging? I mean, Molinaro beat Mason the week before, so wasn't Mason's win the avenging? Or is Molinaro now avenging his previous avenge?

    EDIT: As to Dake, it's a pretty crappy seed, but it follows with the college football adage "it's better to lose early than late."
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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    Frank has been practicing more against Taylor in the room to get used to someone longer then him as both Caldwell & Dake are. If he can finish his shots unlike the Scuffle final Frank will be tough to beat.
    I like Molinaro a lot, but how much better is he going to get off the bottom here in a couple of weeks?

    He's been susceptible to being ridden ever since he was a freshman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    I like Molinaro a lot, but how much better is he going to get off the bottom here in a couple of weeks?

    He's been susceptible to being ridden ever since he was a freshman.
    True but against who? Metcalf? Ruschell? Palmer? The guys aren't around anymore. No one has ridden Frank very long this year.

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    Zilverburg kept him down in their dual match after he got on top, and then Grajales kept him down for a while (long enough to eliminate a decent amount of riding time) in their Big 10 final. These two are just off the top of my head.
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