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    The precedence that we place on conditioning above everything else really isn't helping our competitiveness in freestyle right now. Just sayin'. And you can "freestyle rules suck it's worthless" all you want, but as Sir Tom Brands himself once sagely posited "the battle is universal" so world titles will always trump NCAA titles no matter how unfortunate we find the rules to be. For the record, I'm a fan of J Rob's outspoken style though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwh27 View Post
    The precedence that we place on conditioning above everything else really isn't helping our competitiveness in freestyle right now. Just sayin'. And you can "freestyle rules suck it's worthless" all you want, but as Sir Tom Brands himself once sagely posited "the battle is universal" so world titles will always trump NCAA titles no matter how unfortunate we find the rules to be. For the record, I'm a fan of J Rob's outspoken style though.
    I don't think the argument at hand has anything to do w/ "The precedence that we place on conditioning."
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    Perhaps. I'm just making a separate, but related, observation that this sort of debate would really only occur in this country. That may be obvious, but I find it to be significant considering our lack of success internationally. I don't disagree with Coach Robinson's comments and think that the official reprimand is absurd. However, it is unique to American wrestling that we pay more attention to a lung timeout than our skill deficiencies. I'm no less guilty than any of you and apologies if you find this to be entirely irrelevant.

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    So you're suggesting that Molinaro isn't necessarily taking lung time-outs, but just preparing himself to win a world/olympic title?
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    As I clarified by editing my post, I am in no way defending Molinaro. In fact, I agree with J Rob. It was more of a general comment, but apparently not specifically on topic enough for you. Sorry.

    I don't think it's necessarily bad that lung timeouts bother us, they sure as hell piss me off. I just happen to think objectively that conditioning has never been and never will be our weakness internationally yet we continue to emphasize it as much or more than anything else.

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    No need for apologies. I don't think conditioning is emphasized any more than necessary in folkstyle or free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwh27 View Post
    As I clarified by editing my post, I am in no way defending Molinaro. In fact, I agree with J Rob. It was more of a general comment, but apparently not specifically on topic enough for you. Sorry.

    I don't think it's necessarily bad that lung timeouts bother us, they sure as hell piss me off. I just happen to think objectively that conditioning has never been and never will be our weakness internationally yet we continue to emphasize it as much or more than anything else.
    We emphasize it because in folkstyle it does matter. Remember we mainly talk about college wrestling here, not international. I do however see what you are saying.

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    Freestyle rules suck it's worthless

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    I agree that it does matter, whether it should be so paramount is another matter. Especially if a wrestler's ultimate goals are to be an Olympic and World champion with NCAA competition as an important transition. Obviously this is the college forum, so it's pointless for me to continue defending my brief sidenote.

    Good call quinn

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