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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    I've always preferred "stuck"
    Me too. Fits a pin better. To me, decked sounds like you beat the piss out of the guy and we all know that doesn't happen too often with those NL's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    Lol.



    Nature's first green is gold,
    Her hardest hue to hold.
    Her early leaf's a flower;
    But only so an hour.
    Then leaf subsides to leaf.
    So Eden sank to grief,
    So dawn goes down to day.
    Nothing gold can stay.
    That was quoted in The Outsiders which was one of the best books/movies of all time.

    And in my area, we've always said "stuck", never heard of decked.

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    I looked up the current Intermat national rankings to see where each Big 10 wrestler would be seeded based on those rankings (I know the seeding will have other criteria). I had thought that Iowa would be stronger at Big 10's and PSU would be stronger at the NCAA's. But based on the Intermat rankings for seedings (an inaccurate guide for seedings I realize) and based on a point scale of 1st-16, 2nd-12, 3rd-9, 4th-7, 5th-6, 6th-4, 7th-3 and 8th-2 (I'm not sure that's accurate either)--but with those criteria, these would be the points for the top 4 teams:

    PSU-99 points with 5 top seeds, 1 4th and 2 5ths (8 in all)
    Iowa--90 points with 1 top seed, 3 2nds, 3 3rds, 1 4th and 1 6th (9 in all)
    Wisconsin--80 points with 3 top seeds, 1 2nd 2 4ths and 1 5th (7 in all)
    Minnesota--61 points with 1 2nd seed, 4 3rd seeds, 1 4th seed and 1 5th seed (7 in all)

    I see 133, 141 and Hwt as being critical to the team title as differing placings high up there could make a huge difference in the team score. The Intermat has Long #3, Graff #4 and Ramos #7. Many are thinking Ramos will be the #1 seed with Long the #2 seed. If the final results turned out that way, that difference alone would give Iowa 97 points and PSU 95.

    One other note--relative strengths/weaknesses of certain weight classes help/hurt certain teams. For example PSU has Alton at #7 in the country, but only the #5 seed in the Big 10's. Some #5 seeds won't even be ranked in certain weight classes. Minnesota has the same issue at 125 and 141 where Sanders is ranked #5 nationally, but will only be #3 in the Big 10. And then there's Thorn who's ranked #3 nationally at 141 but will only be #3 in the Big 10.

    So, it should be interesting. I imagine Jensen will at some point come out with the weight-by-weight predictions.

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    Tom: 19-15-12.5-11.5-8.5-7.5-5-4 is more accurate in terms of Big Ten scoring. Doesn't include bonus points, but it factors in everything else.

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    Pinfall-til the day I die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SetonHallPirate View Post
    Tom: 19-15-12.5-11.5-8.5-7.5-5-4 is more accurate in terms of Big Ten scoring. Doesn't include bonus points, but it factors in everything else.
    Thanks SHP. With those revised points this is what I would come up with based on Intermat rankings:

    PSU--123.5
    Iowa--120.5
    Wisconsin--103.5
    Minnesota--85

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    Surprised Minny is that far back and Wiscy is that far up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomWright25 View Post
    Herkey--Yes, I grew up with PA schoolboy wrestling and we often used the termed "decked" for a pin. I didn't realize it was mostly localized to PA!
    Ohio boys use the "decked" term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    Surprised Minny is that far back and Wiscy is that far up.
    Minnesota certainly has a stronger dual meet team, but they don't have as many highly ranked wrestlers as Wisconsin does. Minnesota is also hurt in that their 2 highest ranked wrestlers (Sanders & M Thorn) are in tough Big 10 weight classes. But this is all on paper. Everything could go very different next weekend!

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