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  1. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoSt View Post
    Burroughs got robbed on his first td too.. two very poor calls imo.

    Dustin looks very solid and well sized at 157 but he just doesnt seem to have that killer instinct anymore... you could hear the coaches yelling at him to take shots the entire match but other then like two good shrug attempts and a counter shot I dont think he took one the entire match.

    As a fan its really a shame to see but I guess it is what it is, I'm not going to speculate on whether its injuries or just something in his head but he looks about the same as he has the last two years, hopefully this year off is what he needs to return to form.

    Gotta give burroughs credit though, that guy is a horse. I dont know if he'll win this year but Im calling him as 157 champ in 2010 barring an injury or something like that
    Agreed. This was what I was trying to say in my earlier post. And yes, Burroughs seems to be getting better and better each year.

  2. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoSt View Post
    After next year we will lose both Ness and Schlatter. If minnesota wants a title its going to have to be next year or it will probably be a ways off :P

    I agree though Iowa and ISU will be very tough to beat
    With this line up:

    125 Sanders - RS Sophmore
    133 Ness - RS Sr
    141 Thorn - RS JR
    149 Mason - RS Fr
    157 Schlatter - Fifth year Schlatter
    165 Glasser - RS jr
    174 Yohn?
    184 Yohn RS so/ true JR eidenshenk ?
    197 Geiger RS fr
    HWT Berhow/Nord/RS Disney

    They could, should they all be consistent, make a legit run. Not as good of an ISU Run, but a legimate run. If they all pan out.

    Here's what I think. I think for 2 years, especially last year, DS has been bored and cutting too much weight so he checked out. His loss. With this RS year, he potentially could regain some passion/health/desire (not that he lost it, I do think the pressure started to get to him), Heal, and Win at a weight where two of the three guys he lost to are gone redeeming himself.

    Realistic Champion shot, if he chooses to be freshman year DS, who, possibly, could have been the best college wrestler we've seen since Cael, including metcalf, but that's another thread.

    I think NEXT year, Zack Sander will be borderline unstoppable with Another year to grow.

    SR Ness - wants that @$%@# title after he didn't get it this year or last year, and is a much bigger 133lber.

    He may AA this year, but I think Mike Thorn AA's next year for sure, or at least puts up El Gasolina numbers.

    I think Mason after a year in the room is a potential AA, and at a minimum score points. I'm not going to say AA for sure because we saw shat happend to the Schlatter's, but he'll score points for sure.

    An older, wiser glasser goes Gabe dretch inconsistent, production about the same.

    I think 74 is weak for some reason, Maybe little Yohn surprises, maybe older yohn surprises, but I think Sonny will be at 84 next year.

    84, Yohn or eidenschenk - I like yohn but this is a weak spot.

    Finally, The Gopher's may have scored themselve a good 197lber. I think Geiger has the best chance of Being a 4 time AA. I wish Hartung was still around for him, or that Morgan comes back.

    A Older wiser Berhow could AA at a traditionally weak weight, Since Mocco left. I have no information on Disney whatsoever, other than his bio accomplishments and the fact I've seen him wrestle 1 freestyle match, so thats an X factor.

    IF they catch breaks, next year is their best chance.

    3 realistic titles contenders, 3 realistic additional AA's(Geiger, Thorn, and Mason), A veteran Heavyweight, A solid 165lber, and 2 potential holes which could likely, if they got it just right, could score points for no reason.

    So, Hypothetically, lets say 2 champs, 4 additional AA's plus a HVY AA, win a few matches, they have a legit shot. Iowa's done that before, why can't the Gopher's.

    Now before I get ripped, I'm not suggesting the're going to DO this, its just that it isn't as unreasonable as it sounds. And I just explained what I think HAS to happen for it to occur, not some bold, MAroon and gold colored glasses, pie in the sky prediction. I could happen, but it would take one heck of an effort.
    Last edited by architeuthis; 12-15-2008 at 09:24 PM.
    "It is the difference between humble and hubris that distinguishes their positions." -TLV

  3. #30

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    Kind of surprised that you think Geiger, Thorn and Mason are there realistic title contenders. I would think it would be Sanders, Ness and DS and then Geiger, Thorn and Mason are fighting for AA spots. I think that's what you meant but it didn't come out looking that way.
    "Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until they speak."

  4. #31

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    I guess we will see how minnys unproven guys progress. Heck we havent seen half of THIS years lineup wrestle top competition, it's probably a little early to be talking about two years down the road!

    I do think Minny has the potential for a very solid team next year if some of our youngsters can step up and if Dustin can get himself into solid form.
    Gold is an idiot.

  5. #32

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    You're right, I meant 3 title contenders in Sanders, Ness and Schlatter and 3 AA's in Geiger, Thorn, and Mason.

    That was an important part to leave out.
    "It is the difference between humble and hubris that distinguishes their positions." -TLV

  6. #33

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    I tend to agree with you however on the way those break down. I am not going to assume two champs but I think those three are potentially top three and the other three guys are top eight. Six All-American's puts you at the finals table typically if the competition is deep next year as it looks like it will be. I also say that Glasser could step his game up but nothing he has shown me up to this point leads me to believe that he is going to sneak in to an AA spot next year unless he starts beating some top five guys this year from time to time. He is going to run in to one of those guys early on at NCAA's with his potential seed (non-seed) and he is going to have to get past at least one of them to get on the podium. I think Minny potentially qualifies nine out of ten next year.
    "Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until they speak."

  7. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    Yeah, I was going to say a loss to Burroughs who is cutting eight fewer pounds than he has been the last two years that drops his career record against him to "only" 3-1 isn't exactly something thats going to end the world.

    And in terms of him being "less offensive" I think its the opposite. He was going after Burroughs trying to get a score and then ran into those two doubles.

    I haven't seen much video of Dustin wrestling, but from what I read from the message boards his offense has been an issue for a while. What Dustin fans should be worried about is is defense- he got taken down pretty easily in that match.

  8. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    I haven't seen much video of Dustin wrestling, but from what I read from the message boards his offense has been an issue for a while. What Dustin fans should be worried about is is defense- he got taken down pretty easily in that match.
    Burroughs might be the best guy from his feet in the country besides metcalf, and he is certainly one of the most explosive and powerful.

    In fact last year I think Dustin and possibly Bubba Jenkins are the only people that Burroughs didnt score at least one takedown on last year among those he wrestled.

    Dustin just doesnt look like he did three years ago he doesnt seem to have the same fire, agressiveness, or explosiveness. If he can find his offense again Im sure he would have no problem beating burroughs. Heck he only lost by two points, one td and that would have been an overtime match
    Gold is an idiot.

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