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Thread: ESPN.com's Story on National Duals

  1. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    There is a difference from losing and and a demoralizing beating. I don't presume that this was Brand's logic, but if they go to the duals and suffer some losses, that can can be tough on the team's confidence. The Iowa mystique has also returned for the last few years and to go to the duals and not even place in the top four... the mystique is gone from the minds of your opponents and more importantly from the Iowa wreslter's own mind.

    My guess is that Brands (wisely) held them out, not becuase he was afraid that they would lose, but that they would lose badly enough to take a major hit in their confidence.
    You might be right, but as I tried to take clear in my post, I don't think this is an Iowa problem. I think the sport of wrestling- in general- has too many athletes/coaches avoiding top competition for fear of taking losses. Weather it's Iowa and PSU skipping national duals, guys declining All-Star invitations, Pucillo avoiding Herbert in a dual meet a few years ago or that Russia/USA dual meet where the Russian coaches sat Sajidov to keep him from having a rematch against Lawal... not good. Wrestling needs fans, and fans want to see best-on-best competition as often as possible.

  2. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlottke View Post
    Until Cael wins one I wouldn't really be so ready to openly attack a guy who has actually proven he *can* win. Nothing against Cael but one guy has proven he can win as a coach and the other hasn't.

    Not many of the Iowa fans on this board have ever been overbearing when they were winning everything so keep that in mind.
    Schlotte, My opinion of Brands has nothing to do with PSU, Cael, etc. I have never been overbearing about PSU, and I would never state that PSU was going to win it all. I have said that they are making a run and have a chance at a national title, how is that overbearing?

    I've defended Cael from the overbearing Iowa fans who constantly remind us that Mr. ISU can't win the big one. For years they've been arrogant about their success. They've Defended Brand's actions of jumping onto mats, berating wrestlers, and acting like an ass. I'll give Iowa all the respect those wrestlers deserve, and I respect the Brand brothers for their wrestling successes, but I will not show them respect for their lack of sportsmanship and antics toward their peers and other school's wrestlers. Sorry, that's the way it is. I'll be less vocal about it, as it seems to have upset the sensitive souls in Iowa.

    I've said my peace. I'm done.

  3. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    I think the sport of wrestling- in general- has too many athletes/coaches avoiding top competition for fear of taking losses. Weather it's Iowa and PSU skipping national duals, guys declining All-Star invitations, Pucillo avoiding Herbert in a dual meet a few years ago or that Russia/USA dual meet where the Russian coaches sat Sajidov to keep him from having a rematch against Lawal... not good. Wrestling needs fans, and fans want to see best-on-best competition as often as possible.
    I agree 100%. Wrestling is a podunk sport in the US that has a very small fan base. You risk turning off the small fan base when possible marquee matches don't happen.

  4. #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badcat View Post

    I've said my peace. I'm done.
    People who say that are typically not done.

    I'm loving the passion on both sides though, it's great having a few teams in the mix rather than having Iowa dominate completely. I think quite a few fans would like to see Iowa take their lumps this year, which is why some are upset that they skipped duals. I'm not even a Hawk hater but I'd like to see them get thumped. After PSU dominates for a few years I'll probably feel the same about them.

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