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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    There is a huge difference between the two. For the past three years Iowa has been dominate and have gone to the duals and won. Now that they are not dominate and not as competitive they hide. It is what I would expect from a bully, show up and fight when you have the advantage but hide when you dont. I am a fan of Iowa and Brands but to call this anything but cowardly is being a homer in the up most.
    Ever think for a second that they aren't hiding? Why walk into a fight you cannot win ill prepared just because your haters want to see some blood?

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    I'll talk to Brands and have him consult the boards to see what the best schedule for his team is next year.

    Maybe it just shows how fickle the rest of the countrys fans are. I mean if the fate of the wrestling world hinges on whether or not Iowa shows up at national duals, things are looking pretty sad and maybe you as fans of other teams need to take a long look in the mirror.
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    As top 16 teams, it would have been nice to see both Penn State AND Iowa there.
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    I agree. I wanted them to be there too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    I'll talk to Brands and have him consult the boards to see what the best schedule for his team is next year.

    Maybe it just shows how fickle the rest of the countrys fans are. I mean if the fate of the wrestling world hinges on whether or not Iowa shows up at national duals, things are looking pretty sad and maybe you as fans of other teams need to take a long look in the mirror.
    Wrestling might not hinge on if Iowa shows up or not, but wrestling events in Iowa certainly do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlottke View Post
    Ever think for a second that they aren't hiding? Why walk into a fight you cannot win ill prepared just because your haters want to see some blood?
    That is all well and good but in my mind it is chicken shit in a way. When you are good you will go to all the tough tournaments and beat all the other teams that dont have a chance. When it comes time that you might not be assured a win you tuck tail. Like I said it is what I expect from a bully. Brands took his ball and went home. I dont think he owes it to anyone but what did they do instead, they wrestled some tam they knew they would crush.

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    Now , UGLY, calm down as I am sure Brands has his reasons . I have no clue as to what they are but sure he has some. Like maybe he did not want to lose 2 duals in one day.

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    Maybe, just maybe, he didn't want his very young team to get their confidence beaten badly twice in a short time span. There is no upperclass leadership, really, and after how badly the team performed at Midlands, I'm personally glad (in a way) they didn't go out there and wrestle National Duals. Guys like Derek St. John are going to benefit a lot more from more intensive training teh from the NWCA Duals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    That is all well and good but in my mind it is chicken shit in a way. When you are good you will go to all the tough tournaments and beat all the other teams that dont have a chance. When it comes time that you might not be assured a win you tuck tail. Like I said it is what I expect from a bully. Brands took his ball and went home. I dont think he owes it to anyone but what did they do instead, they wrestled some tam they knew they would crush.
    Maybe in his mind they didn't earn the right as a team to be at "National Duals"?

    You can just assume he's a bully who only takes a fight he *knows* he can win or try to see it from the inside of the program... I'm pretty sure nobody at Iowa is sitting around feeling like they dodged National Duals... there is definitely more to it than that.

    If they really were simply trying to avoid losing it'll hurt them a lot more in the long run... I just really doubt that is the case.

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