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    Pre-Season
    1. Darrion Caldwell (NC State)
    2. Kyle Dake (Cornell)
    3. Frank Molinaro (Penn State)
    4. Kevin LeValley (Bucknell)
    5. Jason Chamberlain (Boise State)
    6. Jamal Parks (Oklahoma State)
    7. Mario Mason (Rutgers)
    8. Torsten Gillespie (Edinboro)
    R12. Dylan Carew (Iowa), Danny Zilverburg (Minnesota), Kurt Kinser (Indiana), Brian Stephens (Virginia Tech)

    Mid Season
    1. Darrion Caldwell (NC State)
    2. Kyle Dake (Cornell)
    3. Frank Molinaro (Penn State)
    4. Kevin LeValley (Bucknell)
    5. Jason Chamberlain (Boise State)
    6. Mario Mason (Rutgers)
    7. Cole Schmitt (Wisconsin)
    8. Brian Stephens (Virginia Tech)
    R12. Andrew Nadhir (Northwestern), Jamal Parks (Oklahoma State), Kurt Kinser (Indiana), Ivan Lopouchanski (UNC Greensboro)

    We kept wondering when we were actually going to see him this year (and unfortunately he wound up missing the two events where he'd see his best competition) and now Darrion Caldwell is finally back, and he seems to be pretty much the same guy that he's always been as he's 6-0 right now with five pins. He really hasn't wrestled anyone yet as the most significant of those wins so far was his fall over Josh Roosa in his first match back, but its encouraging for his future prospects to see that he's dominating guys that he's supposed to dominate. He would have wrestled his best opponent so far this past weekend but wound up sitting out of the dual against Virginia and missing an opportunity to wrestle Derek Valenti. He's got matches left on his schedule with Parks and Stephens, then he should see Stephens again at ACC's but he'll definitely come into NCAA's relatively untested against the best of the best guys at weight.

    Dake came in this year off his hugely successful true freshman national championship season moving up a weight class. Given that he was probably the biggest 141 in the entire country last year he hasn't had much of an issue size wise but he hasn't exactly set the world on fire this year like he did last year though. He spent the early part of the year banged up and struggling with getting down to weight, and wound up missing both the Body Bar and Las Vegas tournaments as a result. The Body Bar wasn't a huge loss but he'd have seen some tough guys out in Vegas. Right now he's still undefeated having recorded shut out wins over Stephens (10-0), Molinaro (1-0), and Jantzen (2-0). The Molinaro and Jantzen matches are pretty emblematic of his general style, he's so good at defending shots and he's tough enough on top to where much like Russell he can salt matches away even if he isn't turning you. If he's healthy though I think Caldwell is just too athletic while still being a very talented wrestler to where he'll beat Dake.

    Coming into the year I wondered if I wasn't not showing enough love to the Gorilla Hulk given that all of his losses from last year were now gone from the weight class, however much in the same vein of the last two guys an injury (in his case a broken bone in his foot) has caused that question to possibly remain a little unclear here at the halfway point of the season. Since he made his return at the Sprawl 'N Brawl though things have kind of gotten back to form for him. He still likes to get out and take a lot of shots and beat people up on the feet, still tough on top, still can be ridden or at least he still believes that he could be ridden. That ineffectiveness on bottom cost him in one of his two losses this year as he took neutral in his Scuffle final against Dake and wound up losing 1-0. He's split matches this year with Mario Mason coming out victorious in his first match back in the line up, and losing in the Nittany Lion Open finals as Mason's final victim in his run of defeating three straight Penn State wrestlers. Other than those matches he's got a pair of majors over Torsten Gillespie, and a win over Sakaguchi. Came into the year predicting him to pretty much walk through the Big 10 and while I'm higher on some guys now than I was in the pre-season I still like Molinaro as the heavy favorite.

    Kevin LeValley continues to function this year much like he did last year, just cruising along under the radar and continuing to win. Mario Mason recently knocked him from the undefeated list, but other than that lost he has been far more consistent so far this year. He got started early this year with a shut out win over Gillespie in the All Star match. Other than that he's got another win over Gillespie, he's got wins over Dylan Ness and Cole Schmitt en route to winning the Midlands, then he's also beaten Kinser, Parks, and Lopouchanski. He's got a little bit of a lull stretch now in terms of his level of competition, he won't see a ranked opponent from now until his last dual of the year where he'll wrestle Sanjaa. That should leave a prospective match up between him Dake at EIWA's as one of the more interesting matches at conference tournaments.

    I liked Jason Chamberlain last year as a breakout guy, he spent most of the year wrestling kind of inconsistently before knocking off LeValley and making the quarters at NCAA's (where he fell victim to a brutal pin by Lance Palmer) before going out in the Round of 12. So far this year he's seemingly fixed the consistency aspect as he's undefeated so far having won the Las Vegas and Reno tournaments, but he still hasn't exactly been blowing people away. Part of that is a function of his competition level as he just hasn't run into many top level guys so far. He has three wins over Sakaguchi, and then other wins over Kinser and Jantzen. He'll see Sakaguchi here again in a few weeks but the match that may be most telling as to whether or not he's ready to be a contender this year will be when he wrestles Parks in Boise's last dual of the year before Pac-10's. Should he win that will immediately become his best win of the year headed into the post season.

    Thinking back to the pre-season predictions that I did, I recall a rather spirited debate occurring between myself and another poster pertaining to the likelihood of Mr. Mason making the All American podium. I was arguing in the affirmative due to Mason's seemingly higher comfort level this year at Rutgers both because he was closer to home and with the coaching staff, and it causes me endless joy to see that at least over the first half that I was right. Mason has looked much improved this year both in terms of his results and in terms of just his overall demeanor on the mat. Had a little bit of a slow start, taking all of his losses during the first month of the year (decisions to Molinaro and Green, and a fall to Steve Santos) but since December he's been very tough recording marquee wins over Molinaro and LeValley. He's got matches with Stephens and Sanjaa left on the schedule, and he'll be an interesting addition to that already mentioned pairing of Dake and LeValley as far as quality guys who won't have met before their conference tournaments.

    I spent quite a bit of time debating as to who to go with here in these last two spots (if you have the time take a look at D1CW and see how Schmitt, Stephens, Parks, Kinser, and LeValley have exchanged wins this year) and wound up going with Schmitt here. He's a guy who like Kyle Dake moved up from 141 last year where he was kind of back and forth. He was solid but he had a tendency to get blown out by some of the top level guys. So far this year he's got two wins over Accordino, and then other wins over Sanjaa, Nadhir, and Stephens. He's got a pair of losses to Lopouchanski, and then he's also beeen beaten by Stephens, Jantzen, and LeValley. Stylistically I like him as he's a guy who is getting better at being hard to score on (from the feet anyway, he's still susceptible to being turned) and he's tough on top.

    Came into the year pretty high on Stephens as a break out guy this year and while he's performed well enough to earn a spot on this list he's been kind of inconsistent as to what I actually expected him to do (although again look at D1CW for the results between these two guys and my Round of 12) as odd as that sounds given that I only picked him as a R12 guy. So far this year he's beaten Gillespie, Schmitt, Lopouchanski, Accordino, and Parks. Then like most of his teammates in the Virginia Tech line up he's taken his fair share of losses this year as an individual having lost to Kinser twice, and then also to Carr, Lopouchanski, Schmitt, and Dake. To his credit other than the loss to Dake all of his other losses have been very close and he's been in the match until the end.
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    At this rate Jamal Parks is going to be the most talented guy I have ever seen never break through the round of 12. At least this year it won't be to Diaz again.

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    I have been using Lester over Kinser since he cut to 149-had some good wins -(John ,Fleming,)at 157 and was close 5-7 to Bubba-has one loss at 149-a 1 pointer to Sanjaa. Kinser has always been a favorite but this cut is killing him.

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    Pre-Season
    1. Steve Fittery (American)
    2. Bubba Jenkins (Arizona State)
    3. Adam Hall (Boise State)
    4. David Taylor (Penn State)
    5. Colt Sponseller (Ohio State)
    6. Jason Welch (Northwestern)
    7. Jake Deitchler (Minnesota)
    8. Derek St. John (Iowa)
    R12. Paul Young (Indiana), Bryce Saddoris (Navy), Trent Weatherman (Iowa State), Justin Lister (Binghamton)

    Mid Season
    1. Steve Fittery (American)
    2. David Taylor (Penn State)
    3. Adam Hall (Boise State)
    4. Jesse Dong (Virginia Tech)
    5. Bubba Jenkins (Arizona State)
    6. Bryce Saddoris (Navy)
    7. Jason Welch (Northwestern)
    8. Paul Young (Indiana)
    R12. Derek St. John (Iowa), Walter Peppelman (Harvard), James Fleming (Clarion), DJ Meagher (Cornell)

    I've mentioned several times that its interested me that 157 hasn't quite turned into the crazy back and forth weight that many (or at least I did) thought that it would be during the pre-season and has instead transitioned to seemingly being a two man race. Keeping that in account I think I may be going against the direction of popular opinion and sticking with the guy that I've had atop this weight class for the last seven months to come out on top in said two man race. Fittery is a guy who looked like he could have won this weight class last year before he hurt his knee in February. Even so he still made the semi's at NCAA's before JPO took him apart leading to his eventual 5th place finish. He's come in this year and looked like pretty much the same guy, great aggressiveness from every position. Can go feet to back from the feet. Tough on top with his legs, and then explosive from bottom. He's seemed like he's more polished this year as well, he's not quite as wide open. Thus far he's undefeated, he's got wins by fall over Welch, Gonsor, and Weatherman. Then just this weekend he recorded a 15-0 tech over breakout guy Chase Nelson. He's got matches on his schedule left with Cocozzo and John both of whom he should roll through, assuming he wins his showdown at EIWA's with Saddoris he should head into NCAA's undefeated.

    I spoke about how conflicted I was about what to do with David Taylor in both sets of picks that I've made so far this year, mentioning that I was highly tempted to take him for a finals spot each time before settling with sticking him a safe (in my mind) 4th spot. I think its safe to say based off how things have gone this year that I should have gone with my heart instead of my head because Taylor has been absolutely out of his mind, he came into the year with super high expectations and amazingly enough he's exceeded them. Like Fittery he's undefeated, having recorded tech falls over Paul Young and Matt Cathell, majors over Walter Peppelman, Colt Sponseller, and Daryl Coccozo, then a dominant win in the Nittany Lion Open finals over Jesse Dong. The wins over Sponseller (14-1) and Young (19-2 tech in about 3:30) double as probably the two most dominant performances over good wrestlers so far this year. Taylor is probably the only guy in the country able to challenge Jordan Oliver's claim to the title of "most in his arsenal." Much better on his feet than I thought he was going to be, still has his great high crotch, his great knee pull single, and his great funk defense. What I didn't know that he had, and what is arguably his most effective weapon is his absolutely absurd ankle pick that he can hit to either side. On top he's equally effective at both riding and scoring with his legs or with his tight waist/claw, tight waist/half series.

    Adam Hall is a guy who came into this year as the highest returning placer from last year's tournament, and so far he's really done nothing wrong this year but he's still be over shadowed by the utterly absurd level of dominance that the guys above him have displayed. Really broke out last year offensively in terms of being able to get to his offense. Very basic wrestler from the feet, comes straight ahead and tries to beat people's heads up to set up his leg attacks. Started the year off with a tough loss at the All Star match going down 12-4 to Bubba Jenkins in a match that he was never really in. He showed his mettle though when he came back a few weeks ago and defeated Jenkins in OT in the Las Vegas finals. He beat Meagher and Sponseller en route to that championship at Las Vegas. He's also got a win this year over Saddoris, and then two dominant wins last weekend at National Duals over Trent Weatherman.

    While he didn't get an official match until 2011, Jesse Dong wrestled well enough while he was redshirting (and hasn't exactly fallen off since being put into the line up) to where I think he's able to put memories of last year behind him and get himself up high on the AA stand this year. Was one of several surprises at this weight last year along with Fittery and Scotton (Scotton at least during the first half of the year anyway). He's at his best wrestling from top, he's able to put up lots of points really quickly with his tilts. So far this year he's got a tech over Weatherman, a major over Kyle John, and then other wins over Cheza, Young, Cory Mock (who he just lost to this past weekend), Erisman, and Meagher. While it isn't an official win he also defeated his teammate Yates in the team's intra-squad match before the season got started.

    Bubba Jenkins came into the year perhaps not as the most hyped up guy at this weight class, but probably the guy who's results this year would be the most interesting at least in my mind. He started off the year with a major down (gas out and eventual loss to Josh Chang) before coming back with a big up (12-4 major in the All Star match over Hall). He had a big Las Vegas tournament putting wins up over Barrett Abel and Bryce Saddoris before going down to Hall. After Vegas we didn't see him for a month as injury rumors abounded but he made his return at Virginia Duals sporting a rather large knee brace. He recorded a nice win last weekend beating Matt Cathell 12-7. He was up 12-2 and looking for more before Cathell picked up 5 points on a counter to a shot and ride out. If Bubba is able to stay healthy (and over the last two years that hasn't exactly been a given) he's too talented not to get up on the podium.

    Saddoris is a guy who you feel like has just been around forever having been a solid performer for Navy over the course of his career at 149 and 157. Was an AA two years ago before moving up last year and putting up another solid year despite falling short of his second All American finish. So far this year he's split matches with Paul Young winning out at Las Vegas, and losing in the semi's at the Southern Scuffle. He's got other wins over Peppelman and Chase Nelson. He's dropped other matches to Jenkins and Hall. He's another guy who while he isn't particularly superlative at any one facet, he doesn't really have any weaknesses either.

    Coming into putting these together for some reason I thought Welch had had a much worse season than he's actually had. Other than his awful Midlands where he got upset early by Donnie Tasser and then sent home in the consolations by Patacsil a few rounds later he's actually been very solid. He came into the year needing to fix two things from his true freshman season if he was going to be successful. He needed to be bigger and more filled out (which he appears to have accomplished) and he needed to be a little less of a wild man during his matches (that may still need to be worked on a little bit). So far this year he's got wins over Deutsch by fall, and then he has a nice marquee win over Paul Young in a dual meet a few months ago. Other than the matches that he dropped at Midlands his only other loss this year was to Fittery in the Keystone finals. He's done a nice job in his matches against non-top competition (Tasser not withstanding obviously) putting up big scores.

    I was on record back in the fall stating that I thought dropping Kinser and Young down weight classes was the height of stupidity, but here at the halfway point both guys have wrestled pretty well especially Young. He never really seemed like a big 165 so its understandable that he hasn't seemed to be effected by the increased weight cutting, but he was already wrestling so well at 165 I just didn't really see the point in having him come down. Still wrestles a style based primarily around his skill and overall aggressiveness from neutral. He's got a pair of wins so far this year over Deutsch, and then he's also got the aforementioned win over Saddoris, and another win over the redshirting RJ Pena. Already brought up all of his losses, just to reiterate he's dropped matches to Dong, Welch, Saddoris, and Taylor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    What I didn't know that he had, and what is arguably his most effective weapon is his absolutely absurd ankle pick that he can hit to either side.
    This is new to me, too. Definitely seems to be something he's taken from Cael quite beautifully.


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    This is a great thread. Awesome write ups by Jensen

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    Jensen is a guy who's been writing these threads for some time now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    Jensen is a guy who's been writing these threads for some time now.
    Hahaha


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    Touche. Bastards...
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