I wouldve left too Russ. That's no way to wrestle. That's exactly the reason Gable had to make the mat bigger. So there was more room to wrestle those dirty stallng cowboys.
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I wouldve left too Russ. That's no way to wrestle. That's exactly the reason Gable had to make the mat bigger. So there was more room to wrestle those dirty stallng cowboys.
The push out rule is one of the few new rules that I like. The action stays in the middle and the two minute periods are done in about two minutes. I think the NCAA wrestling could use this rule, especially at the hghest level where so much action stops when one wrestlers "works" his way out of bounds as a defense.
The one problem I have with FS rules is a pushout is worth as much as a takedown so for Folkstyle the first instance could be a warning and then the 2nd one worth one point and it would still make takedowns be a lot more valuiable than pushouts.
The stalling Cowboys are scoring bonus points in just over 50% of their matches this year. Gotta think that is a pretty good average for a bunch that doesn't do anything.
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Originally Posted by Art Vandelay
I don't care what you say. They're still rotten...even the two on my fantasy team.
Ha Ha Ha.....its not just the Cowboys, but a lot of schools play the edge, or whatever you want to call it. I hate it personally, but I dont want a push out rule either as it makes it too much like freestyle and I think freestyle is ridiculous with their rules now as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herkey#1
Just call stalling more and it will stop. The officials need to be more consistent with their stalling calls and not just call it at the end of matches when it counts. If they are backing off the mat in the first period nail him for it. Of course, being an Iowa fan we have seen this technique put into play many many times over the years as wrestlers will basically refuse to compete at times to "save their lives". Then opposing fans bitch and moan about how Iowa fans own the officials into making a stall call. Easy solution, dont stall, and officials be consistent with calling stalling. It is a rule for a reason.
Even in old-rules freestyle we were taught to stay on the mat. Referees usually gave a couple of warnings when you backed off, and then started handing out cautions. I've had refs say stuff like "next guy who goes off is getting cautioned". It worked pretty well, though of course there were gold medals decided om controvertial point/no point decisions.
On a side note, I think a lot of people overestimate how much the pushout affects modern freestyle. Certainly there is the odd chitzy point scored, but I'd bet most "pushouts" are really the result of a guy being driven out- and often to the mat- wth a solid leg attack.
I would be in favor of adding the zone to collegiate mats and having the refs encouraging movement to the center and giving out cautions for not doing so.
In SUMO wrestling (Japan) if you push the guy out YOU WIN! Good as a pin!Quote:
Originally Posted by oldfart
Make the mats bigger