He's fallen out of the rankings since he hasn't wrestled yet this year.

I'd be interested to see a similar comparison of the Midlands pre-seeds so we could get an idea of what individual weight class may be the "toughest" between the two tournaments.

Originally Posted by JensenS

He's fallen out of the rankings since he hasn't wrestled yet this year.

Hopefully he's not on Dake's side of the bracket.

Originally Posted by JensenS

I'd be interested to see a similar comparison of the Midlands pre-seeds so we could get an idea of what individual weight class may be the "toughest" between the two tournaments.

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Very interesting. Confirms the utter absurdity of the Midlands heavyweight bracket.

Now that you've broken it down that far do you still think 49 is going to be the toughest Scuffle bracket just because of how top heavy it is despite what the numbers say?

The way I calculated it the numbers don't lie so obviously no. I had them inverted nearly, when looking @ how I had the top 5. The first pass over the figures though you could see how I might have come to that conclusion as 49 is as you said top heavy. Dake, Caldwell, Molinaro & Gillespie will most likely blow right through the bracket til the semis.

If one did an even further analysis, like the one SHP does using score difference & opponent's score difference combined & then averaging them out many times, it could show something else. Rankings are still opinions. The math sometimes shows that a competitor is far better then his ranking due to the level of competition he has engaged in. But I think what I did suffices in terms of analysis.

The Midlands 285 is ridiculous. Even out does 165 & 125.