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    I think you're struggling not posting duplicates of each of your posts.
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    Default Re: David Taylor DEC Jesse Dong 9-3

    Yeah, not sure what's going on, I keep getting this "Fatal Error thing".
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    Default Re: David Taylor DEC Jesse Dong 9-3

    Sounds serious, potentially life threatening even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Jesse Dong was the third seed because it was a cleared out weight and Jordan Burroughs and Dustin Schlatter both got injured. Still, a third seed is nice, but he didn't live up to it by failing to AA. Both guys Dong lost to had never AA'd until that tournament. Dong had a nice season, but the question was who is more accomplished. Winning a bigger tournament than your "rival" wins out. If Dong had AA'd, I'd change my stance.

    Level of competition can matter, especially in a big tournament. In consecutive matches, Stieber faced Bonnano, Patterson, Lara, and Perrelli, all guys ranked and expected to at least have a shot at AA honors. David Taylor beat Nick Visicaro, Dylan Caprio, Zach Clemente, Mark Lewandoski, James Vollrath, and Jesse Dong. Only one of those guys would be ranked, and I'm sorry, it's easier to have one tough match in a day then have to grind through 3-4 over a couple of days.
    This explanation is all good and well, even though your criteria is a bit arbitrary and inconsistent since Patterson failed to advance as far at NCAAs as Dong and Patterson only wrestled two matches to win Big 12's. But you're conveniently neglecting to mention the most important difference of all - Taylor beat Dong badly, 9-3 with over 5mins of riding time. Stieber LOST to Patterson. You can talk all day about how much harder Logan's day was after the Patterson match but it's basically irrelevant - thus far, David Taylor is wrestling at a much higher level. We don't have a ton to base it off yet, it's early in the season - but it's as clear as rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwh27 View Post
    it's early in the season - but it's as clear as rain.
    Clear as chocolate rain. Some stay dry and others feel the pain.
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    These discussions can get a little idiotic. I mean, are we really arguing over Stieber and Taylor? Or is this dicussion really over "Hype". David Taylor had a very good day wrestling, and was impressive. Stieber Had a really bad day, and was not impressive. Those are the facts. Comparing DT to Cael is simply unfair. Cael is the Bar and it's set at perfection. Expecting someone, anyone to live up to that is just unrealistic.

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    Who compared him to Cael? BWH was being completely facetious obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    Who compared him to Cael? BWH was being completely facetious obviously.
    Ahh...didn't get the sarcasm.

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    Default Re: David Taylor DEC Jesse Dong 9-3

    I'm certainly not concerned as a Stieber fan. I expect true freshman to have a few rough goes early in the season. Even Cael had a loss during his true freshman season. If he's like most guys, he'll learn a lot from losing those matches that will help him in March.

    Heck of a start by Taylor though. It's obvious that he used his RS year well.

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