Ian McCutcheon Contributed to this article.

We took a poll of Division I coaches as well as members of the wrestling media to determine who the top ten coaches in the country are. Though not necessarily an order of the most successful, these are the coaches that do the best jobs with their programs. No surprise, most of the top programs in the country are represented here. There also was a poll taken to determine what coaches will need to see improvement in the next few years, or they may be feeling the heat, because of tradition, funding, or recruiting base. Below are the results of the poll, with small assessments of each selection.

http://www.flowrestling.org/articles...win-situations

I saw the title of this thread, read the article, and confirmed what I feared: Penrith!

I thought that by now I've made enough of a convincing argument on these forums that he's done quite a fine job at UNI, all in the same state as ISU and Iowa.

To also have Spates in this is laughable.

Pretty bad assessment with Penrith and Spates, in my book.

This article is ridiculous and is irresponsible journalism at its best.

That you would put Smith, Borreili and Flynn ahead of J. Robinson is just rubbish. Who has done it longer and had more success out of that four then J. Robinson. I am not saying J. Robinson is #2 per se behind Tom Brands and no one else, but these other coaches I think need to be doing it at the highest level a little bit longer before I would move them past J. Rob.

Originally Posted by goferphan

That you would put Smith, Borreili and Flynn ahead of J. Robinson is just rubbish. Who has done it longer and had more success out of that four then J. Robinson. I am not saying J. Robinson is #2 per se behind Tom Brands and no ne else but these other coaches I think need to be doing it at the highest level a little bit longer before I would move them past J. Rob. Just get rid of this thread, please.

I also thought that Robinson was dismally ranked low (but I also thought that John Smith was too). I'll take Robinson, John Smith, and Brands over anyone (except Penrith ).

from flo's site;

"We took a poll of Division I coaches as well as members of the wrestling media to determine who the top ten coaches in the country are. Though not necessarily an order of the most successful, these are the coaches that do the best jobs with their programs. No surprise, most of the top programs in the country are represented here. There also was a poll taken to determine what coaches will need to see improvement in the next few years, or they may be feeling the heat, because of tradition, funding, or recruiting base. Below are the results of the poll, with small assessments of each selection."

Originally Posted by goferphan

This thread is ridiculous and is irresponsible journalism at its best. First off the title doesn't even match what you are writing about. Ten Worst Coaches and Ten Coaches on the hot seat are not the same thing. Whomever wrote the piece is an idiot and I would hope that this site will blow out whomever wrote it and decided to post it.

I'd have to argue that if they are the leader of the team and are the ten at risk for losing their job in the eyes of the author(s), it is pretty much a Ten Best / Ten Worst list. I do not agree with the idea of creating such a list, but I'm not sure what else you could call it.

I now know what you were doing Schlottke and it makes much more sense. I see now you were posting the article from Flo and giving them proper credit. Its amazing that Ian could write what I thought was a great article last week and then write such an irresponsible piece this week. It doesn't help the sport in my opinion and its all hearsay as no one comes forward to actually offer an opinion behind the poll.

I would imagine that the intentions of this began as something that could have done a lot of good, however, it was carried out in an irresponsible way. Not that the ADs or anyone in charge at a University are going to take the article for a grain of salt, but it certainly doesn't do anyone any good to create a 'hit list'.

Directly contacting the coaches with suggestions or fan concerns would be one thing- creating an article to focus attention on ten coaches who may or may not be performing to the level of some of the other programs is not constructive.