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    I know that I might take some heat here, but I just got back from the Cal State Fullerton vs Navy match and was disgusted in the way that Fullerton won the dual.
    They won 21-17 overall, but the score was 15-17 going into the last match and the Navy wrestler was winning and the Fullerton guy was givng up, then they collided heads (I personally did not think it was illegal) and the refree called an illegal head butt on the Navy guy. They awarded the point and the Fullerton took his time on the side of the mat. Dan Hicks (Fullerton Head coach) then came over and had the trainer check him out, the wrestler said he was ok and he was able to follow the trainiers finger with his eyes just fine.
    Then all Hicks started to wave his hands and say he was done. The wrestler jumped up and was willing to wrestle but the coach said no, thus giving them the match (6 points) to Fullerton and winning the dual.
    I thought it was very unsportsman like and that the Navy was robbed of a very good dual. They pushed Fullerton's gas tanks and wore them out on their own mat.

    I know there is times when you should not let your athlete continue, but this was not one of those times. It was clearly their only shot to win the dual and they took the weak way out.

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    I feel like I've heard a story like this before.

    Anywho, which weight was it? and I'd really have to see it to believe it.

    Not calling you out, if that happened, that would really be shady. I'd be irate if that happened to my team. Or in an important dual.
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    Hicks still has pretty close ties to the Navel Academy (he went to school there and organized a clinic in memory of an ex-team mate very recently), I'd have a tough time seeing him pull that without the athlete having a history of concussion or another serious reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlottke View Post
    Hicks still has pretty close ties to the Navel Academy (he went to school there and organized a clinic in memory of an ex-team mate very recently), I'd have a tough time seeing him pull that without the athlete having a history of concussion or another serious reason.
    I agree. We have known the Hicks brothers for many many years, they are way too good of people to do this just for the win...no way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trusty View Post
    I agree. We have known the Hicks brothers for many many years, they are way too good of people to do this just for the win...no way.
    Although it did happen with only 30 seconds left:

    165 – Devin Velasquez (F) by disqualification of Matt DeMichiel (N) at 6:30

    who would head butt someone on purpose with that little time to go (and a lead)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlottke View Post
    Hicks still has pretty close ties to the Navel Academy (he went to school there and organized a clinic in memory of an ex-team mate very recently), I'd have a tough time seeing him pull that without the athlete having a history of concussion or another serious reason.
    Huh? Dan Hicks went to Oregon State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrestlingTerp View Post
    Huh? Dan Hicks went to Oregon State.
    Is this a different Dan Hicks than the one who inspected belly buttons at the navel academy??

    Update: I guess so... I always just assumed it was the same guy, but the Hicks that coaches at Fullerton is over 40... heh.

    Good thing I don't do investigative journalism for a living.. lol The videos above are definitely from the event though.

    12/12/2002 - Wrestling
    Former Navy All-American Wrestler Dan Hicks Captures Bronze Medal in Finland

    VANTAA, Finland - Former Navy All-American Dan Hicks wrestled his way to a third-place finish at the 2002 Vantaa Cup (Dec. 7-8) to earn the bronze medal in the 96 kg./211.5-pound weight class, while competing for the United States Marine Corps.
    Hicks, who served as the Navy team captain during the 1994-95 season and is fourth in school history with 114 all-time victories, was dominant in his first-two matches of the tournament, recording a pin and a technical fall. The 1994 NCAA All-American and three-time Eastern Intercollegiate Wrestling Association champion dropped his first match of the tournament in the semifinals, as Sweden's Martin Lidberg came away with a 3-0 decision. Lidberg is a former World bronze medallist and European champion. Hicks bounced back in his final match to defeat Latvia's Igors Kostins, 6-0, to secure the bronze medal.
    The U.S. Marine Corps team, with five wrestlers competing, tied with Greece for seventh place with six points.
    Last edited by Schlottke; 11-08-2008 at 06:59 PM.

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    Hey Greco, so I'm a little lost just because of one match, your disgusted of the hole team. wasn't there a lot of outstanding matches where the scrambles or there sand ups were phenomenal. I saw a little bit of the Cal F. vs U.S.A N.A. I feel I got what a paid for. But don't think I'm trying to say it wasn't wrong what Cal Fullerton did but everywhere you go there will be incidents like that one. So don't take it out on the school its just another bad Power crazed reff and coach. but what else is new, its the same old tune.

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    165, and Matt Demichiel...

    For what it's worth, reading off the Cal State-Fullerton press release, Demichiel was warned from the same thing earlier in the match.

    Regardless, you'll likely see Jason Coyne at 165 for Navy's tri-meet in Bakersfield tommorrow as a result (a DQ automatically means a suspension for your team's next date of competition, as Mark Perry found out last year)

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