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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlottke View Post
    Hicks still has pretty close ties to the Navel Academy (he went to school there and organized a clinic in memory of an ex-team mate very recently), I'd have a tough time seeing him pull that without the athlete having a history of concussion or another serious reason.
    Huh? Dan Hicks went to Oregon State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrestlingTerp View Post
    Huh? Dan Hicks went to Oregon State.
    Is this a different Dan Hicks than the one who inspected belly buttons at the navel academy??

    Update: I guess so... I always just assumed it was the same guy, but the Hicks that coaches at Fullerton is over 40... heh.

    Good thing I don't do investigative journalism for a living.. lol The videos above are definitely from the event though.

    12/12/2002 - Wrestling
    Former Navy All-American Wrestler Dan Hicks Captures Bronze Medal in Finland

    VANTAA, Finland - Former Navy All-American Dan Hicks wrestled his way to a third-place finish at the 2002 Vantaa Cup (Dec. 7-8) to earn the bronze medal in the 96 kg./211.5-pound weight class, while competing for the United States Marine Corps.
    Hicks, who served as the Navy team captain during the 1994-95 season and is fourth in school history with 114 all-time victories, was dominant in his first-two matches of the tournament, recording a pin and a technical fall. The 1994 NCAA All-American and three-time Eastern Intercollegiate Wrestling Association champion dropped his first match of the tournament in the semifinals, as Sweden's Martin Lidberg came away with a 3-0 decision. Lidberg is a former World bronze medallist and European champion. Hicks bounced back in his final match to defeat Latvia's Igors Kostins, 6-0, to secure the bronze medal.
    The U.S. Marine Corps team, with five wrestlers competing, tied with Greece for seventh place with six points.
    Last edited by Schlottke; 11-08-2008 at 06:59 PM.

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    Default Re: Cal Fullerton vs Navy [Videos Added]

    Any idea who's who in those vids?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greco-ZAG View Post
    I know that I might take some heat here, but I just got back from the Cal State Fullerton vs Navy match and was disgusted in the way that Fullerton won the dual.
    They won 21-17 overall, but the score was 15-17 going into the last match and the Navy wrestler was winning and the Fullerton guy was givng up, then they collided heads (I personally did not think it was illegal) and the refree called an illegal head butt on the Navy guy. They awarded the point and the Fullerton took his time on the side of the mat. Dan Hicks (Fullerton Head coach) then came over and had the trainer check him out, the wrestler said he was ok and he was able to follow the trainiers finger with his eyes just fine.
    Then all Hicks started to wave his hands and say he was done. The wrestler jumped up and was willing to wrestle but the coach said no, thus giving them the match (6 points) to Fullerton and winning the dual.
    I thought it was very unsportsman like and that the Navy was robbed of a very good dual. They pushed Fullerton's gas tanks and wore them out on their own mat.

    I know there is times when you should not let your athlete continue, but this was not one of those times. It was clearly their only shot to win the dual and they took the weak way out.
    Although I agree with you that this was a sad way to finish a close dual, I do not agree with your conclusion of the events as they occured. The Navy wrestler stuck his hand in the face and then leaned in with his head. In the first period the match was stopped due to the Navy wrestler poking the Fullerton kid in the eye. In the last period the score was 3-2 Navy, so the match was still in doubt, when the Navy wrestler again stuck his hand in the kids faced and leaned in and head butted the kid. The trainer examined the kid for a concusion, and unless you were on the mat next to the trainer, I do not know how you could have seen the eyes following the light the way they were facing and the trainer was examining him. The trainer called it a possible concusion and not the coach, and as you well know, if the trainer calls it a concusion, then they have to take the safety of the kid as the priority. I know that 90% of the kids would want to continue, but if they have had a concusion they may not be able to make that determination, and that is why it is the call of the trainer, not the coach. It was unfortunate that a great dual, between two quality programs had to end in this matter, but the safety of the kids must always take priority over a win or loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Head N Arm View Post
    Although I agree with you that this was a sad way to finish a close dual, I do not agree with your conclusion of the events as they occured. The Navy wrestler stuck his hand in the face and then leaned in with his head. In the first period the match was stopped due to the Navy wrestler poking the Fullerton kid in the eye. In the last period the score was 3-2 Navy, so the match was still in doubt, when the Navy wrestler again stuck his hand in the kids faced and leaned in and head butted the kid. The trainer examined the kid for a concusion, and unless you were on the mat next to the trainer, I do not know how you could have seen the eyes following the light the way they were facing and the trainer was examining him. The trainer called it a possible concusion and not the coach, and as you well know, if the trainer calls it a concusion, then they have to take the safety of the kid as the priority. I know that 90% of the kids would want to continue, but if they have had a concusion they may not be able to make that determination, and that is why it is the call of the trainer, not the coach. It was unfortunate that a great dual, between two quality programs had to end in this matter, but the safety of the kids must always take priority over a win or loss.
    Welcome to the forum and thanks for giving us your perspective to the event!

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