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    Hi, I've got a strange question maybe but I would like to ask about a wrestling match between Cain Velasquez and Brock Lesnar. How it would look like when they would battle same year?

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    I predict a stoppage in the first round with Velasquez getting his arm raised.
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    In my opinion,
    Lesnar in college would've beaten Velasquez in college, in a folkstyle wrestling match. Lesnar's double leg was just incredible. The UFC match was different because Velasquez was the better striker, which wouldn't come into play in a wrestling match. I also think Velasquez's wrestling has improved since college. Lesnar was at a higher level in college than Velasquez was.

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    what makes you think that Lesnar would beat Cain?
    Wasn't cain fighting better wrestlers in his career?

    and would not velasquez defend that double leg better as he was quicker (was he?) and was wrestling bigger guys almost all his college career?


    I just need to get as much info about those two guys from their College years.

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    I'd take Lesnar in a wrestling match at the peak of their wrestling careers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    I'd take Lesnar in a wrestling match at the peak of their wrestling careers.
    So would I, with no hesitation. Wasn't he undefeated in his two years other than his loss to Stephen Neal? And then he finished 2nd, 1st. That's pretty dominant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold View Post
    So would I, with no hesitation. Wasn't he undefeated in his two years other than his loss to Stephen Neal? And then he finished 2nd, 1st. That's pretty dominant.
    For the record, Brock lost two matches in college, one to Neal in the 99 Finals, and one to Wes Hand of Iowa in 2000. That said, I think the level of competition was about the same.

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    what makes you think that Lesnar would beat Cain?
    Wasn't cain fighting better wrestlers in his career?

    and would not velasquez defend that double leg better as he was quicker (was he?) and was wrestling bigger guys almost all his college career?


    I just need to get as much info about those two guys from their College years.
    Brock was a two time finalist, and one time Div 1 champion, and one time Jr. College Champion, while Cain was a two time all-american, finishing 4th and 5th. Interstingly enough, Cain's losses in both NCAA Tournaments were to the same guys, Konrad in the championship Bracket, and Wagner in the wrestleback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amlan74 View Post
    Brock was a two time finalist, and one time Div 1 champion, and one time Jr. College Champion, while Cain was a two time all-american, finishing 4th and 5th. Interstingly enough, Cain's losses in both NCAA Tournaments were to the same guys, Konrad in the championship Bracket, and Wagner in the wrestleback.
    So well to Cain's credit he lost to a better wrestler then Brock was - saying that about Konrad.

    I'm wondering because accomplishments are not everything right?


    Next question - how about now? Are you looking at their careers now? And how to measure their wrestling skills now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloody_cody View Post
    So well to Cain's credit he lost to a better wrestler then Brock was - saying that about Konrad.

    I'm wondering because accomplishments are not everything right?
    I don't know how this adds up to much. Yeah Konrad was great, but Brock's loss to Stephen Neal was against an incredible opponent. Heck, I can go out and lose to the best heavyweight in the world, but that doesn't really say I'm better than anyone.

    I haven't been paying attention long enough to have watched Lesnar, and there's no way to know for sure who was better, but both overall record and NCAA accomplishments seem to point to him as the better collegiate wrestler.


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