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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    Z doesnt strike me as a big 97.

    I would attribute it more to improper weight cutting than lots of guys cutting weight. Welcome to D1 wrestling.

    Esco and T Nick make 25 still. Jake Varner somehow used to be 184(countless other examples) and these guys dont have conditioning problems. It's because they do it properly. Either Smith doesnt work on conditioning much, or doesnt make sure these guys cut weight properly.
    I think there's a limit to how much weight you can cut "properly",especially for tall lanky guys.

    Didn't Varner used to wrestle really boring matches at 184? Might be due to conserving his energy because of the weight cut.

    I remember hearing that John Smith was a big fan of cutting weight "properly" (as opposed to the starve and dehydrate method) when competing, so I imagine he's got it figured out as a coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerfan View Post
    I don't think you're giving Haynes enough credit. Most teams have already scouted him enough and are choosing neutral rather than go down. He's a hammer on top and Smith & co should have known that. That said, his takedowns in the 3rd vs. Mr. Neutral were obviously due to gassing.
    Everyone knows Haynes is for real-just kinda gets lost in the conference -I know Haynes has wins over bond and Logan Brown -plus -from a fantasy stand point Missouri guys aren't too good a choice because of their schedule-he'll finish third at best and then have a lower seed going into the tournament -I'd hate to draw him first round .

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    Is there anyone at Hwt with a big enough gas tank for us to find out about Gelogaev's conditioning next year? I thought one of the okie state fans were talking about his laziness earlier this summer. Not sure if that's true or not.

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    I think sometimes "style" can get confused as Laziness. Any kid cutting that kind of weight isn't "lazy".
    "Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until they speak."

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    No, I meant that they said he was lazy in practice. One of them related a story where he was sitting a drill out. One of the coaches told him to start practicing. He told the coach you know I going to hurt him right? And went out and did precisely that. And sat back down after he was done.

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    My college coach , Doug Blubaugh, always said the Russians were the worst conditioned athletes on the planet . The Russian two on one series is just a way to stall and have your opponent carry you until you make a mistake .
    The Russians were the ones who got the time changed from 3-3-3-I guess Coach was right .

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    Depends on the Russian I think. Sergei Beloglazov and the Saitievs (esp. when younger) for example were pretty aggressive, active wrestlers themselves. Modern day Kudukhov is pretty active as well, and other than Farniev I can't think of any current world team Russians who lose because they are out of shape.

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