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    Quote Originally Posted by OldShamrock View Post
    Varner and Z at 197 won't be a major or pin. Gelogaev is too well balanced from what I've seen for that to happen, and Varner is not aggressive enough to get points for a major. I look for a lot of shots from Z, a lot of defending from Varner, and likely some wild scrambles. Varner will win 'cause of superior mat skills, but I just don't see a major here.
    Z takes shots? I guess I didn't see that against Lofthouse.
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    I see Varner getting a Major or a fall here. If he spends enough time on top, he has too much power and I think that by the third Z will be too tired to fight off his back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltz View Post
    Z takes shots? I guess I didn't see that against Lofthouse.
    LOL, true Wiltz, but Z went 7 or 8 straight before that with either falls while up big or double digits, including against some decent competition (Kennedy, Orozco, Drury)...

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    I think of Z as more of counter wrestler. I didn't see the Kennedy or Orozco matches but, Drury got countered several times of off some sloppy shots. Varner isn't going to take any sloppy shots. IMO


    Z has some big moves and he gives up that leg hoping to toss someone. I don't see Varner not finishing once he gets in there.
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    Wow, give OSU some love!!

    Long dec Notte 3-0 ISU
    Oliver dec Fanthorpe 3-3
    Parks dec Jensen 6-3 OSU
    Mueller dec Fuentes 6-6
    Erisman mdec Sorenson 10-6 OSU
    Meade dec Reader 13-6 OSU
    Burk dec Benefield 13-9 OSU
    Ward dec Foster 13-12 OSU
    Varner mdec Gelagaev 16-13 ISU
    Rosholt dec Zabriskie 16-16 Tie

    133, 165, 174, 184, 285 could all be considered toss ups.

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    Wow, give OSU some love!!

    Long dec Notte 3-0 ISU
    Oliver dec Fanthorpe 3-3
    Parks dec Jensen 6-3 OSU
    Mueller dec Fuentes 6-6
    Erisman mdec Sorenson 10-6 OSU
    Meade dec Reader 13-6 OSU
    Burk dec Benefield 13-9 OSU
    Ward dec Foster 13-12 OSU
    Varner mdec Gelagaev 16-13 ISU
    Rosholt dec Zabriskie 16-16 Tie

    133, 165, 174, 184, 285 could all be considered toss ups.
    Meade vs. Reader is key. Both are tough. I'd give the nod to Reader.
    Parks can't be trusted to beat an unranked Jensen IMO. Erisman is good, but a major decision over Sorenson? I dunno. But Burk will have his hands full with Benefiel.

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    OSU wins 133, 157, and 174. I'd pick Fanthorpe if it was at ISU. Varner with a major.

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    125: Long DEC Notte (possible major again) 3-0 ISU
    133: Oliver DEC Fanthorpe 3-3 (could go the other way)
    141: Parks DEC Jensen 6-3 OSU (Watch out if Parks gets caught on bottom!)
    149: Mueller DEC Fuentes 6-6
    157: Erisman DEC Sorenson 9-6 OSU
    165: Reader DEC Meade 9-9
    174: Benefiel DEC Burke 12-9 OSU
    184: Ward DEC Foster 12-12
    197: Varner DQ Gelogaev 18-12 ISU(Stalling on bottom man! This is most likely a big decision or a major, but I wanted to make the call...)
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    HWT: Zabriskie DEC Rosholt 21-12 ISU (Zabriskie is something like 5-2 vs. Rosholt.)
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    Varner DQ Gelogaev...LOL. I can't believe we found a guy that we want to see lose more than Varner!
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