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    Ohio State Buckeyes vs. Arizona State Sun Devils

    125: #3 Anthony Robles MAJ Nikko Triggas (0-4)
    Robles is, for obvious reasons, an extremely unique wrestler. He will simply demolish a wrestler--even a very very good one--who does not know how to handle his strength, leverage, tilts, and low level. I don't think Triggas, who has shown great deficiency from neutral, will be able to handle Robles, and it could get out of control. However, if Triggas gets going on top he has shown that he can do as much damage from that position as just about anyone. I would say that there is an 80% chance Robles puts up bonus, 10% chance he wins by decision, 9% chance Triggas wins by pin, and 1% chance Triggas wins without getting a pin.

    133: Ian Paddock DEC Ben Ashmore (3-4)
    Since he arrived in Columbus, Tom Ryan has been adament to put his best possible team on the mat every year. While I respect this and even find it admirable, it has frustrated me in the instances of two true freshmen whom I would have liked to see redshirt. The first was Colt Sponseller, and the second is Ian Paddock. Paddock has really impressed me as a true frosh. When I watched him against Matt Fisk, they were very even for the first 2/3 of the match, but Paddock seemed to get beat up in the 3rd period and ended up losing 8-3. I have heard similar accounts of some of his other matches as well. His other losses are 1-point decisions to Ekstrom and Napier and a 6-3 loss to a very tough Dan Mitcheff. He has majored Edinboro's Kyle Fluke twice and owns a pair of dominant quality wins over Army's Jordan Thome. I admit I haven't watched Ashmore wrestle, but I like Paddock a lot and am betting that he used the last month to toughen up and will continue to wrestle everyone well this weekend. Had he redshirted, I think he would have been a very strong AA candidate as a freshman next year.

    141: #1 Reece Humphrey DEC #17 Chris Drouin (6-4)
    What is wrong with Chris Drouin? He has some embarrassing losses this year after a very strong AA campaign last year. Given how Drouin has been wrestling lately, I'm predicting Humphrey by 6-10, but if he's back to form, it could be a pretty close match.

    149: #3 Lance Palmer MAJ Vincente Varela (10-4)
    This seems like the kind of match that Lance typically wins by a very methodical, dominant 6-0, 7-0 score and falls just short of the major. However, Lance has put up bonus in his last 4 matches, and I'm thinking (hoping) he continues that in these duals.

    157: Sean Nemec MAJ Michael Swigart (14-4)
    Not much to say here. Hopefully we will get to see Tony Jameson some this weekend. Not necessarily because he's better (I really don't know who's better and am comfortable letting the coaches decide that), but because he always puts on a show and is a lot of fun to watch.

    165: #7 Colt Sponseller MAJ Kyle DeBerry (18-4)
    Could be worse. Expect a takedown clinic.

    174: #19 Dave Rella DEC Eric Starks (21-4)
    This is one of those matches that Rella should absolutely win, yet sometimes finds a way to lose. However, he's coming off a good weekend of beating Bagna Tovuujav and Ryan Patrovich, so I'm hoping I can count on him now.

    184: Mike Pucillo PIN Jake Mereditch (27-4)
    My gut tells me Pucillo will come out of winter break back to his old self, but he didn't wrestle this last weekend, so maybe his problems linger. Either way, he should win this match handily.

    197: Cody Magrum DEC Anthony Pike (30-4)
    I kind of felt like giving this one to ASU so I would look like less of a homer, but I just don't think it's going to happen.

    285: Eric Nye DEC Corey Morrison (30-7)
    CoMo is very capable of winning this. In fact I almost expect him to. I have to give ASU something, though.

    Overall: Buckeyes 30, Sun Devils 7
    I could be wrong, but I really don't see ASU winning more than 2 matches unless tOSU puts some backups in. I would love to hear what people think about this.
    Drouin is in a MAJOR funk-I think hump gets the stick-157 -ASU has wrestled Edwards here before and he'll give Nemec a go-165-DeBerry is a solid wrestler -he has wins over Howe and Wright in FS so I would see a dec here -Starks could easily beat Rella or get stuck-a pair of head cases -nye has been on a tear but Corey is the type who gve him trouble -around 230-40 who can move -no way OSU loses to ASU.

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    First half of the first round, then back to grading papers...

    #1 Iowa v. US Nebraska
    125: Matt McDonough maj David Klingsheim 4-0 Iowa
    133: Daniel Dennis maj CJ Napier 8-0 Iowa
    141: Joe Slaton dec Mike Koehnlein 11-0 Iowa
    149: Brent Metcalf fall Christopher Hacker 17-0 Iowa
    157: Aaron Jannsen dec Tyler Koehn 20-0 Iowa
    165: Ryan Morningstar dec Alex Ward 23-0 Iowa
    174: Jay Borschel dec Stephen Dwyer 26-0 Iowa
    184: Phil Keddy dec Josh Ihnen 29-0 Iowa
    197: Craig Brester Chad Beatty 29-3 Iowa
    285: Tucker Lane dec Blake Raising 29-6 Iowa

    Not a good match up for the Huskers drawing the Hawkeyes right off the bat. Maybe Brands works some back ups in somewhere and this winds up a little closer. If Beatty sits (and I assume he might sit during the Friday duals if not the whole weekend ala Falck) then Brester should pin his back up. Toyed with the idea of taking Dwyer but Borschel has just been too good for me to pick the upset until it happens

    #8 Boise State v. US Buffalo
    125: Alan Bartelli dec Dan Bishop 3-0 Boise State
    133: Andrew Hochstrasser dec Kevin Smith 6-0 Boise State
    141: Levi Jones dec Lemanuel Schutt 9-0 Boise State
    149: Jason Chamberlain dec Desi Green 12-0 Boise State
    157: Adam Hall maj Andrew Stella 16-0 Boise State
    165: John Martin Cannon dec Michael Cuthbertson 16-3 Boise State
    174: Nate Lee dec Brian Sheehan 19-3 Boise State
    184: Kirk Smith maj Josh Peters 23-3 Boise State
    197: Matt Casperson dec James Hamel 26-3 Boise State
    285: Sam Zylstra dec Jedd Mason 29-3 Boise State

    This one was kind of hard to project as you have no idea how banged up Boise State is so you won't really know who you're going to see until they actually get out on the mats on Saturday. Regardless they should take care of business here without much in the way of problems at all.

    #4 Minnesota v. US Missouri
    125: Zach Sanders maj Bradley Wisdom 4-0 Minnesota
    133: Jayson Ness fall Nathan McCormick 10-0 Minnesota
    141: Mike Thorn dec Todd Schavrien 13-0 Minnesota
    149: Mario Mason dec Brandon Wiest 16-0 Minnesota
    157: Patrick Wright dec Luke Mellmer 16-3 Minnesota
    165: Dustin Schlatter dec Nick Marable 19-3 Minnesota
    174: Scott Glasser dec Dorian Henderson 22-3 Minnesota
    184: Max Askren fall Kaleb Young 22-9 Minnesota
    197: Brent Haynes dec Sonny Yohn 22-12 Minnesota
    285: Dom Bradley dec Ben Berhow 22-15 Minnesota

    This one should be one of the closer ones of the first round and if they Gophers don't show up or if they don't have their line up right it is entirely conceivable that Missouri could come in and knock them off. Running off the assumption that Mason will wrestle and Deitchler won't. Don't see Schlatter losing to Marable as they basically do the same things and Schlatter does all of those things better. I think Glasser beats Henderson if he wrestles like he did against Burk and I think Yohn has a shot at knocking off Haynes.

    #4 Central Michigan v. US Northwestern
    125: Matt Steintrager dec Levi Mele 3-0 Central Michigan
    133: Scott Sentes maj Eric Metzler 7-0 Central Michigan
    141: Conor Beebe dec Robert Joyce 10-0 Central Michigan
    149: Tony D'Alie dec Andrew Nadhir 13-0 Central Michigan
    157: Steve Brown dec Kevin Bialka 16-0 Central Michigan
    165: Tyler Grayson dec Robert Kellogg 19-0 Central Michigan
    174: Ben Bennett dec Brian Roddy 22-0 Central Michigan
    184: Mike Miller dec Marcus Shrewsbury 25-0 Central Michigan
    197: Eric Simaz dec Aaron Jones 28-0 Central Michigan
    285: Jarod Trice maj John Schoen 32-0 Central Michigan

    I really don't like predicting white washings especially at a big tournament like this but I just can't see where Northwestern will be able to find a win here in this dual especially if Central Michigan wrestles their full line up. 141, 149, and 165 might be their best chances but they're still slim. Just a tough year for Northwestern given all the talent that they have currently redshirting.
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    In the Boise match-=Cuthberson is tough and Smith may beat Hoch since he has not wrestled in 2 months -197 Hamel will beat Casperson.
    The Minn/Miss match may be closer or go to MISS altogether -
    Just for the fun of it I want to say hi to Shrewsbury-he'll lose but he is a straight A kid and a decent wrestler but mainly a great person .

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    LSV and TDR will be there broadcasting.

    There will be live stats of all matches on the NWCA website, those links will be up on Friday I would imagine.
    Champions are made while no one is watching.

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    we all owe thanks to fanforlife for all her hard work getting everything ready for Dual Wars.
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    "Good things happen when you wrestle for a full seven minutes." -- Jayson Ness, post-finals press conference

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    Thanks Stardust!
    Champions are made while no one is watching.

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    I will also add. IPTV and Big Ten will be broadcasting the Finals as well.
    Champions are made while no one is watching.

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