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    Big dual for these two teams coming up this weekend with both teams coming off a runner up performance that their respective big tournament. Some great individual match ups here in this dual.

    125: #13 Andrew Long v. #3 Zach Sanders 3-0 Minnesota (This in my opinion will probably wind up being the most exciting match of the dual. Both of these guys love to put points on the board. Both guys were impressive in action this weekend. Long put his first really marquee wins on the board, and Sanders had a high quality win over Morrill in the Scuffle wrestle backs)

    133: #5 Nick Fanthorpe v. #2 Jayson Ness 6-0 Minnesota (Ness should handle business here. Dominated his way through the Scuffle until he ran into Mitcheff who gave him a nice go. Fanthorpe took a couple tough losses to Graff and to Fisk at Midlands)

    141: UR Dalton Jensen v. #6 Mike Thorn 10-0 Minnesota (I'm assuming that Gallick isn't going to wrestle here so I'm just guessing on who this is going to be for the Cyclones. Jensen however didn't wrestle at Midlands either so we'll see. Giving Thorn the major for now, but this is a match where he could get 6 and his team could certainly use it)

    149: #13 Mitch Mueller v. #9 Mario Mason 10-3 Minnesota (Mueller had a good tournament and Midlands, Mason looks like he still has some things that he needs to work on putting together. He seems to still be getting his feet under him after missing the early part of the year with an injury)

    157: UR Andrew Sorenson v. UR Joe Grygelko or #13 Jake Deitchler 10-6 Minnesota (I'm going to run under the assumption that its going to be Grygelko here for the Gophers, just put Deitchler's name down just in case. Grygelko had a couple nice wins this weekend at the Scuffle but I think Sorenson probably gets him here)

    165: #3 Jon Reader v. #4 Dustin Schlatter 13-6 Minnesota (Both of these guys did nice jobs running scores up against their first three opponents this weekend before settling for chess matches in their matches in the semi's and finals. We should see another chess match here. Dustin got him in freestyle without much trouble this spring, I think he wins a close one here)

    174: #11 Duke Burk v. UR Scott Glasser 13-9 Minnesota (Another match up between two guys who had very solid tournaments this weekend. If Glasser is finally healthy this is a match that he could very easily win and that would be massive in terms of the dual for the Gophers)

    184: #12 Jerome Ward v. UR Kaleb Young 13-12 Minnesota (In my opinion it may be a better idea to put Yohn down here if he is able to get back to weight quick enough as Ward is a guy that I think he might be able to match up with pretty well. If this is Young then Ward probably wins a decision without much trouble)

    197: #1 Jake Varner v. #18 (at 184) Sonny Yohn 16-13 Iowa State (Much as I like Sonny, Varner is Varner and Varner just dominated his way through the Midlands. This is a match that Varner could conceivably get 6 in if he's able to get on top and use his all that pressure he puts on people with his half)

    285: #5 David Zabriskie v. #10 Ben Berhow 19-13 Iowa State (Z took the upset loss to Trice in the finals at Midlands but other than that looked pretty solid overall. Berhow took a tough loss to Palma in the first round of the Scuffle and then I don't even know what happened after that, didn't look. Z wins a decision to close things out)
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    Pumped about the match, i have my free intermat ticket (thanks JensenS). I'm pretty sure St wins a close one but if JD wrestles and Mason proves the scuffle was a fluke the gophs have a chance...I'm pretty sure Berhow got pinned in conci's,,,looked bad.

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    Here's what I am thinking for Sundays match.

    125: #13 Andrew Long v. #3 Zach Sanders 4-0 Minnesota Long is tough & match will be close until the third period, but Sanders will wear him out and pick up a major

    133: #5 Nick Fanthorpe v. #2 Jayson Ness 7-0 Minnesota Ness will win a close one, but...Ness can pin anyone, Nick included. Should be exciting.

    141: UR Dalton Jensen v. #6 Mike Thorn 13-0 Minnesota I'm thinking Thorn is still pretty hot about his loss at the scuffle and will tear this Dalton kid up. I just hope he can keep it together and not lose his head and give up team points or get DQed.

    149: #13 Mitch Mueller v. #9 Mario Mason 13-3 Minnesota If Mason can get a little tougher, and avoid injuries, he will AA easily this year...and improve his placing next year. Will be a close match will Mueller, so we'll give it to him.

    157: UR Andrew Sorenson v. #13 Jake Deitchler 16-3 Minnesota I'm assuming Jake will wrestle. He had a good Midlands and appears to be ready to go?

    165: #3 Jon Reader v. #4 Dustin Schlatter 16-6 Minnesota I still am expecting Dutstin to win a championship, but this one is a toss up so I'll give it to Reader.

    174: #11 Duke Burk v. UR Scott Glasser 16-9 Minnesota Glasser had a great tournement, but consistency is still suspect. Going with Burk.

    184: #12 Jerome Ward v. #? Sunny Yohn 19-9 Minnesota Sonny has little/no chance against Varner, but I think he can beat Ward. I got my fingers crossed on this one.

    197: #1 Jake Varner v. UR Who cares? 19-15 Minnesota The gophers can throw anyone they want in here, and I expect Varner to get the fall.

    285: #5 David Zabriskie v. #10 Ben Berhow 19-21 Iowa State Big Ben has got issues, and Z will capitalize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    Big dual for these two teams coming up this weekend with both teams coming off a runner up performance that their respective big tournament. Some great individual match ups here in this dual.

    125: #13 Andrew Long v. #3 Zach Sanders 3-0 Minnesota (This in my opinion will probably wind up being the most exciting match of the dual. Both of these guys love to put points on the board. Both guys were impressive in action this weekend. Long put his first really marquee wins on the board, and Sanders had a high quality win over Morrill in the Scuffle wrestle backs)

    133: #5 Nick Fanthorpe v. #2 Jayson Ness 6-0 Minnesota (Ness should handle business here. Dominated his way through the Scuffle until he ran into Mitcheff who gave him a nice go. Fanthorpe took a couple tough losses to Graff and to Fisk at Midlands)

    141: UR Dalton Jensen v. #6 Mike Thorn 10-0 Minnesota (I'm assuming that Gallick isn't going to wrestle here so I'm just guessing on who this is going to be for the Cyclones. Jensen however didn't wrestle at Midlands either so we'll see. Giving Thorn the major for now, but this is a match where he could get 6 and his team could certainly use it)

    149: #13 Mitch Mueller v. #9 Mario Mason 10-3 Minnesota (Mueller had a good tournament and Midlands, Mason looks like he still has some things that he needs to work on putting together. He seems to still be getting his feet under him after missing the early part of the year with an injury)

    157: UR Andrew Sorenson v. UR Joe Grygelko or #13 Jake Deitchler 10-6 Minnesota (I'm going to run under the assumption that its going to be Grygelko here for the Gophers, just put Deitchler's name down just in case. Grygelko had a couple nice wins this weekend at the Scuffle but I think Sorenson probably gets him here)

    165: #3 Jon Reader v. #4 Dustin Schlatter 12-6 Minnesota (Both of these guys did nice jobs running scores up against their first three opponents this weekend before settling for chess matches in their matches in the semi's and finals. We should see another chess match here. Dustin got him in freestyle without much trouble this spring, I think he wins a close one here)

    174: #11 Duke Burk v. UR Scott Glasser 12-9 Minnesota (Another match up between two guys who had very solid tournaments this weekend. If Glasser is finally healthy this is a match that he could very easily win and that would be massive in terms of the dual for the Gophers)

    184: #12 Jerome Ward v. UR Kaleb Young 12-12 (In my opinion it may be a better idea to put Yohn down here if he is able to get back to weight quick enough as Ward is a guy that I think he might be able to match up with pretty well. If this is Young then Ward probably wins a decision without much trouble)

    197: #1 Jake Varner v. #18 (at 184) Sonny Yohn 16-12 Iowa State (Much as I like Sonny, Varner is Varner and Varner just dominated his way through the Midlands. This is a match that Varner could conceivably get 6 in if he's able to get on top and use his all that pressure he puts on people with his half)

    285: #5 David Zabriskie v. #10 Ben Berhow 19-12 Iowa State (Z took the upset loss to Trice in the finals at Midlands but other than that looked pretty solid overall. Berhow took a tough loss to Palma in the first round of the Scuffle and then I don't even know what happened after that, didn't look. Z wins a decision to close things out)
    Not that it matters in the big picture but you only gave Schlatter 2 team points for his decision. So 19-13 Iowa State?
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    Berhow was drilled by Michigan's back up hwt ., Apland . Nothing cheap about it-Apland had 3 first period TD's before pinning Berhow in the first . Palma took him out 10-3 and then Ben won 2 then lost to Apland ,Phillips back up at the Scuffle .
    Zabriskie is physically incapable of putting up bonus tho...

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    I concur, Zabriskie is incapable of bonus points...and he will do it all the way to the title.
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    125: #13 Andrew Long v. #3 Zach Sanders 3-0 Minnesota
    This one could go either way. Both guys are great, but I give the nod to Sanders for experience.

    133: #5 Nick Fanthorpe v. #2 Jayson Ness 6-0 Minnesota
    Fanthorpe is no slouch, but Ness is a dragon. Advantage Ness.

    141: UR Dalton Jensen v. #6 Mike Thorn 9-0 Minnesota
    Thorn will win, but can he add bonus points? Survey says not this time.

    149: #13 Mitch Mueller v. #9 Mario Mason 9-3 Minnesota
    Young Mason has talent, but Mueller has something to prove. if this match happens later in the season, Mason will win.

    157: UR Andrew Sorenson v. UR Joe Grygelko or #13 Jake Deitchler 9-6 Minnesota
    (If its Deitchler, its 12-3, Minny)

    165: #3 Jon Reader v. #4 Dustin Schlatter 12-6 Minnesota
    Two tough dudes, but Schlatter's got his groove back. Reader is very scrappy, so it could go either way.

    174: #11 Duke Burk v. UR Scott Glasser 12-9 Minnesota
    This will be closer than some think. The healthiest one should win, but it may be a battle of the walking wounded. Advantage Burk.

    184: #12 Jerome Ward v. UR Kaleb Young 12-12
    A much-improved Ward wins, but he doesn't know how to get bonus points yet. If Yohn wrestles, Ward still wins, but its close.

    197: #1 Jake Varner v. #18 (at 184) Sonny Yohn -win by major- 12-16 Ia. State
    See those little pieces? That's bits of (name your Gopher here) after Varner gets through with them. Varner could easily get a tech fall or a pin. Minny should just throw in the mascot against Varner: at least there'd be entertainment. Who wants to take one (and I mean TAKE) for the team?

    285: #5 David Zabriskie v. #10 Ben Berhow Minn.12 - ISU 19
    Zabriskie should win this, but he never wins big. Berhow had a disappointing Scuffle, and he needs to regain his confidence.

    For Minny to win, Deitchler needs to wrestle (and well), and Thorn, Mason, and Glasser need to step up, or Berhow needs to pull something out of a hat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grapplefan View Post
    197: #1 Jake Varner v. #18 (at 184) Sonny Yohn -win by major- 12-16 Ia. State

    285: #5 David Zabriskie v. #10 Ben Berhow 12-21 Iowa State wins.
    Zabriskie should win this, but he never wins big.
    So you're picking Z to win by tech?

    Given that I made the same type of mistake I'm aware of the level of nerve that I have to have to make a post like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    So you're picking Z to win by tech?

    Given that I made the same type of mistake I'm aware of the level of nerve that I have to have to make a post like this.
    Oops. er no. I mean 12-19 Thanks JensenS.

    Given the number of simple math errors I make, we shouldn't be surprised.

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