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    Default Can anyone beat Iowa in a dual?

    Is it possible for anyone to beat Iowa this year? Iowa State? Okie State? heck the Ohio State?

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    They can be beaten, sure, but the other team would need a few breaks to go there way.
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    To me Minnesotta presents the toughest match up.

    125-Minny should win
    133-Minny can win
    141-Minny Can win
    149-will be teched/pinned by metcalf
    157-Minny can win
    165-minny should win
    174-J Bo should get some bonus
    184-Yohn has looked really nice and definitely has a punchers chance
    197-should be bonus for hawks
    285-depends on who iowa has, but berhow can hang with them all.

    I dont see another team that matches up worse with the hawks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    To me Minnesotta presents the toughest match up.

    125-Minny should win
    133-Minny can win
    141-Minny Can win
    149-will be teched/pinned by metcalf
    157-Minny can win
    165-minny should win
    174-J Bo should get some bonus
    184-Yohn has looked really nice and definitely has a punchers chance
    197-should be bonus for hawks
    285-depends on who iowa has, but berhow can hang with them all.

    I dont see another team that matches up worse with the hawks.

    I am aware that Cornell already lost a dual this year. But with Nickerson and Kerber in the lineup, it might at least be interesting.

    125 Cornell should win with bonus
    133 Cornell can win (1-1 last year btwn Grey and Dennis but one has looked good this year and the other not so much)
    141 Cornell can win
    149 Will be teched/pinned by Metcalf
    157 Cornell can win
    165 Iowa would be favored, but Kerber's tough
    174 Cornell can win
    184 Keddy would be favored.
    197 Cornell can win
    285 Cornell can win - depending on the matchup

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    Quote Originally Posted by gobigred View Post
    I am aware that Cornell already lost a dual this year. But with Nickerson and Kerber in the lineup, it might at least be interesting.

    125 Cornell should win with bonus
    133 Cornell can win (1-1 last year btwn Grey and Dennis but one has looked good this year and the other not so much)
    141 Cornell can win
    149 Will be teched/pinned by Metcalf
    157 Cornell can win
    165 Iowa would be favored, but Kerber's tough
    174 Cornell can win
    184 Keddy would be favored.
    197 Cornell can win
    285 Cornell can win - depending on the matchup

    It would be interesting indeed.

    Dont see Nickerson beating McD by bonus, just an opinion.
    I think Dennis and Grey are going in very different directions and cannot see a scenario where Grey wins, though of course it is possible.

    Everything else I agree with.
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    Any of those teams can beat Iowa, plus a couple of others if their wrestlers perform really well, or if Iowa sustains some injuries at critical places. That said, the odds are in Iowa's favor. Minnesota and Oklahoma State are probably best suited to upset the Hawks. It's a long season, and a lot can change between now and March.

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    I actually think Iowa is MORE vulnerable in a dual than at NCAA's. At National Duals, after teams have had some battles, will be interesting to see who the two final teams will be and what they have left in the tank. I disagree a little bit with VA in regards to the analysis of the Iowa/Minny dual and while I think Iowa should win it, I see it going down a bit differently. Remember this dual is in Minneapolis and Mason/Deitchler/C. Yohn won't be mat rookies by then.

    125 #4 Sanders wbd #13 McDonough 4-0 I think Sander has the tank to put up bonus.
    133 #2 Ness wbd #4 Dennis dec 7-0 That cut for Dennis isn't getting any easier.
    141 #7 Thorn lbd #6 LeClere 7-3 This is the pivot match, either way.
    149 #14 Mason lbmd #1 Metcalf 7-7 Not willing to hand out a pin or tech fall here
    157 #23 Deitchler wbd Ballweg 10-7 If Deitchler shows, I like his chances.
    165 #2 Schlatter wbd #4 M* 13-7 Think DS will have speed M* can't beat.
    174 UR Glasser/C Yohn lbd #3 Borschel 13-10 Glasser pinned once, never tech'd. Major'd 5x's.
    184 #184 Yohn lbmd #3 Keddy 13-14 Keddy tough, Yohn good to keep it to decision.
    197 UR Nord/Eidy lbd #7 Beatty 13-17 Beatty didn't put bonus on 2 out of 5 DII guys this year at Iowa City Duals.
    Hwt #8 Berhow lbmd Erekson 13-20 Berhow can't be counted on for bonus.

    All in all I think there will be more bonus than this but think that I pretty fairly hold back bonus on both sides and split the even matches. The tipping point could be how well the new Gophers wrestle and that its at home. Gophers will need a pin out of Sanders and possibly one out of Deitchler and a slight upset by Thorn but that may be asking a bit much of the Gophers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goferphan View Post
    I actually think Iowa is MORE vulnerable in a dual than at NCAA's. At National Duals, after teams have had some battles, will be interesting to see who the two final teams will be and what they have left in the tank. I disagree a little bit with VA in regards to the analysis of the Iowa/Minny dual and while I think Iowa should win it, I see it going down a bit differently. Remember this dual is in Minneapolis and Mason/Deitchler/C. Yohn won't be mat rookies by then.

    125 #4 Sanders wbd #13 McDonough 4-0 I think Sander has the tank to put up bonus.
    133 #2 Ness wbd #4 Dennis dec 7-0 That cut for Dennis isn't getting any easier.
    141 #7 Thorn lbd #6 LeClere 7-3 This is the pivot match, either way.
    149 #14 Mason lbmd #1 Metcalf 7-7 Not willing to hand out a pin or tech fall here
    157 #23 Deitchler wbd Ballweg 10-7 If Deitchler shows, I like his chances.
    165 #2 Schlatter wbd #4 M* 13-7 Think DS will have speed M* can't beat.
    174 UR Glasser/C Yohn lbd #3 Borschel 13-10 Glasser pinned once, never tech'd. Major'd 5x's.
    184 #184 Yohn lbmd #3 Keddy 13-14 Keddy tough, Yohn good to keep it to decision.
    197 UR Nord/Eidy lbd #7 Beatty 13-17 Beatty didn't put bonus on 2 out of 5 DII guys this year at Iowa City Duals.
    Hwt #8 Berhow lbmd Erekson 13-20 Berhow can't be counted on for bonus.

    All in all I think there will be more bonus than this but think that I pretty fairly hold back bonus on both sides and split the even matches. The tipping point could be how well the new Gophers wrestle and that its at home. Gophers will need a pin out of Sanders and possibly one out of Deitchler and a slight upset by Thorn but that may be asking a bit much of the Gophers.
    You gave Sanders 4 points for the Dec.

    I'd be surprised if Mason kept it to a decision.

    Yes Beatty didnt bonus all the d 2 guys, but Nord has lost to a few d2 guys right? Well within the realm of possibility. Especially with beattys style, he pushes pace the entire time and Nords tank will be shot by 2nd period. Be surprised if this isnt a bonus.
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    Iowa is indeed very tough. IMO the match with tOSU will go down like this.

    125 McD over Triggas should be 3 for iowa, but could be 6 for tOSU.
    133 Dennis over Paddock either 3 or 4 for iowa.
    141 Humphrey over Leclere could go either way but humphrey is hot.
    149 Metcalf over Palmer could be 3 or 4.
    157 Nemec over Balweg should be 3 for tOSU no matter who iowa puts out.
    165 sponsellor over m* could go either way in a one move match.
    174 jay over rella not much to say here.
    184 Pucillo over keddy could easily go the other way, pucillo = rough start to year.
    197 beatty over magrum margum might surprise.
    HWT erikson over morrison if erikson is back easy win.

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