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    Well said kr !!
    You know, I think I would rather be a man than a god . We don't need anyone to believe in us. We just keep going anyhow. It's what we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net View Post
    Well said kr !!
    Thanks.

    Meanwhile there was SOME wrestling that happened this weekend:

    From PAT D:

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    UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa.; November 7, 2011 ? SIX members of Penn State?s wrestling team competed unattached at the 2011 Clarion Knight Point Open on Sunday. True freshmen Jordan Conaway (Abbottstown, Pa.) and Luke Frey (Montoursville, Pa.) and sophomore Andrew Church (Erie, Pa.) each placed at their respective weights.
    Frey, a true freshman from Montoursville, took the runner-up spot at 141, advancing to the finals with three wins including a major and a tech fall before dropping a 5-1 decision in the finals to unattached Daniel Neff. Conaway, an Abbottstown native, placed third at 125 with a 4-1 mark that included two tech falls and a 13-7 loss in the semifinals to the eventual champion. Church, an Erie native, went 3-1 at 174 and advanced to the finals before losing to take the runner-up spot.

    Other Nittany Lions competing included Michael Waters (Advance, N.C.), who went 2-2 at 141; Brandon Phillips (Timonium, Md.), who went 2-2 at 174; and Collin Campbell (Hurdle Mills, N.C.), who went 2-2 at heavyweight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net View Post
    Never said it was . this guy started a program for AT RISK kids -typical predator behavior-find victims no one will believe . I agree with Herk-society owes a special amount of protection for those who cannot helpp themselves. The elderly and the handicapped and the children . Now if this man is innocent i'll write him a letter of apology . If guilty the Pa, authorities may call on me to torture the perv .
    This thread is titled Penn State WRESTLING...and Jacob was always very adament about keeping the thread on task. just say'n

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    Quote Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net View Post
    Never said it was . this guy started a program for AT RISK kids -typical predator behavior-find victims no one will believe . I agree with Herk-society owes a special amount of protection for those who cannot helpp themselves. The elderly and the handicapped and the children . Now if this man is innocent i'll write him a letter of apology . If guilty the Pa, authorities may call on me to torture the perv .
    Only problem russ is that pervs usually like torture...

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Wow! Re read what you just posted. Seriously, I am hoping that none of this is true. But either way, put yourself in either the little boy's situation or the dad of the little boy. It reads like you are more concerened about PSU than the kid. I am hoping you didn't mean it that way because I hope you aren't a jackass. I agree, let's let the facts come out before passing judgement. But the way you posted sounds like you are defending a university over a child. Again, I hope you didn't mean it that way.
    I would treat this as any other potential crime where serious physical or mental harm is alleged:
    If you know something, put it out there for everyone to learn.
    If you want to express sympathy for those involved, absolutely go for it.
    But if you are just making S**t up, as someone on this board was, it will make the situation worse. In no way will it help any of the alleged victims or perpetrator.

    I don't mean at all to make it sound like I want the story to go away. I do, however, believe strongly in the concept of innocent until proven guilty. Even more so in child-related situations because especially in my field, even the suggestion of something inappropriate can end a career. Having said that, the allegations against Sandusky seem very strong, and those against the AD and the guy who is basically the "chief of police" (as KR called him) seem undeniable.

    As bad as it sounds this might be, let's let the truth come out.

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    KR-
    after a blow torch to the genitals the coup d' grace would be a 9mm to the brain pan . Just sayin
    You know, I think I would rather be a man than a god . We don't need anyone to believe in us. We just keep going anyhow. It's what we do.

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    Note to self:
    DO NOT GET r.payton PISSED AT ME

    That Charles Manson avatar is really starting to worry me

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBloodLion View Post
    I would treat this as any other potential crime where serious physical or mental harm is alleged:
    If you know something, put it out there for everyone to learn.
    If you want to express sympathy for those involved, absolutely go for it.
    But if you are just making S**t up, as someone on this board was, it will make the situation worse. In no way will it help any of the alleged victims or perpetrator.

    I don't mean at all to make it sound like I want the story to go away. I do, however, believe strongly in the concept of innocent until proven guilty. Even more so in child-related situations because especially in my field, even the suggestion of something inappropriate can end a career. Having said that, the allegations against Sandusky seem very strong, and those against the AD and the guy who is basically the "chief of police" (as KR called him) seem undeniable.

    As bad as it sounds this might be, let's let the truth come out.
    That's cool. I just thought that you might state something like you hope it isn't true for the child's sake. Your post read like you were just sticking up for the University and dismissed what could have "possibly" happened. And trust me, I am NOT a politically correct guy. I just don't understand how Paterno or any other person who heard the charges didn't go directly to the real police and make sure some sort of investigation was started. Like I've said before, I have always respected Paterno, but only doing "what he legally had to" is not enough in a case like this. Even if the guy turns out innocent, Paterno failed to stick up for a 10yr old boy who could have possibly been raped. The accusation should be enough to make him pursue it.

    I just heard on the radio that the AD and someone else have resigned due to alligations of a cover up. I hope they do find out the truth and all are prosecuted. But most of all, I hope the kids get help. Not just a check in the mail, but real help for the rest of his life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I just don't understand how Paterno or any other person who heard the charges didn't go directly to the real police and make sure some sort of investigation was started. Like I've said before, I have always respected Paterno, but only doing "what he legally had to" is not enough in a case like this. Even if the guy turns out innocent, Paterno failed to stick up for a 10yr old boy who could have possibly been raped. The accusation should be enough to make him pursue it.
    I'm sure more information will come out, but I agree with this completely. Paterno's son (an attorney) seems to be the spokesperson Paterno, and he released a lawyerly statement, some of which is contained here: Paterno shocked by charges, PSU rocked by scandal - ContraCostaTimes.com

    Sandusky wasn't an employee in 2002, which is when this was reported to Paterno. I don't know whether that had any impact on Paterno's lack of followup, but I suspect it may have. If someone came to me with such an accusation, I think I'd run it to the ground and be sure it wasn't just brushed aside. Paterno is a legend with the power to get things done, but it appears that he reported what he was told and then moved on (allegedly).

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