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    Wow!
    Let's rule out capital punishment (that's execution) in favor of maybe corporal punishment (physical punishment that inflicts pain).

    As for going for the maximum, that would be 1 year in prison and $2500 fine for a first time offense (that is per offense, by the way, so we could be talking 3 years in prison). That is very rarely applied when you are talking about someone around 21 or 22 having a drink with a friend who is 18-20. Heck, Fischer is now 21, so he can buy for himself.

    I'm all for following the rules and facing the consequences when I don't, but I can't see 3 years in jail for this. ZZYX, do you really see this as an appropriate 1-3 year prison stay? It will likely result in at least $3,000 in fines, not including legal costs. $1,000 is listed as the minimum fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzyzx View Post
    Nope, not capital punishment. But, get serious with imposing a full sentence for something too many think is harmless that too often results in serious problems for the drinkers and worse for the victims of these kids who can't handle the booze. Look at all the alcohol related problems at Penn State in the past month or so. These kids might be good wrestlers but they are mental midgets.
    Calm down everyone. Alcohol is not the problem. Are you telling me that when your buddy turned 21 and you were still just 20 that you didn't drink some of the beer he bought? People freak out about that kind of stuff waaaay too much. If they were buying beer for 14yr old girls then that is different. But just because your buddy happens to have been born a few months ahead of you doesn't make him any more or less responsible with a beer in his hand. I didn't hear any reports of them fingering a 50yr old woman or slamming a bartender and resisting arrest. So, come on. This is petty.

    But, I thought I also read Herky's post that said he read it on FOS and I laughed. Am I wrong or does that stand for Full Of Shit? Herkey, come clean. It's hilarious if it is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post

    But, I thought I also read Herky's post that said he read it on FOS and I laughed. Am I wrong or does that stand for Full Of Shit? Herkey, come clean. It's hilarious if it is a joke.
    Fight On State...Full Of Shit. Six of one, half dozen of the other. (And that's a joke, cause I know Kr is gonna run back to FOS with that quote)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    Fight On State...Full Of Shit. Six of one, half dozen of the other. (And that's a joke, cause I know Kr is gonna run back to FOS with that quote)

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    Wow. I just went to the site (never heard of it before) I did see the post you were referring to. I still think that it's petty. But that is the price a college pays for winning a title. All eyes are on YOU now.

    But in reality, this doesn't sound more than a few friends sharing some beer. If it turns into something like the Ruth or Long situation then that would be a problem, but drinking beer in college is not something to get all-up-in-arms about.

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    To stand up for Ruth, here are a couple updates:
    He had no alcohol in his system.
    He was trying to get into the bar because that was the only place he could find a pay phone (didn't have his cell)
    He was the only one listed as being struck or punched

    I still think something bizarre was going on with the Long scenario, but I don't know enough to comment.

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    Yes, I think mandatory maximum sentences for criminal activity that involves alcohol should be the norm. No, I have never gone out drinking with friends, or any one else. Grew up with a family of alcoholic bastards and watched many of them die of it. Would never touch the stuff. I can understand those who drink in moderation but have seen and picked up way too many who are the victims of drunk drivers, mean drunks and irresponsible drinkers to give any of them leeway at all. You drink and act stupid, you deserve what happens to you. You drink and hurt someone else you should have enhanced mandatory 10 years prison time, forfeit drivers priviliges for 10 years once out and never be able to own a car or sign for loans for anyone to purchase one.
    Yep, strict as hell when it comes to drunken bums. The old crap of "that wasn't me" is pure BS - - - after a few drinks the real you comes out. Just in too many cases it is a jackass and not a pleasant and quiet drunk.
    In my work have seen way too many dead and mangled bodies as the result of drunk drivers. Often drunk drivers who were not hurt even as a family lies bleeding and dying because of their irresponsible alcohol use. Kill someone while drunk, go to prison for life.

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    While I think we will disagree on what is an appropriate penalty in cases where there is not injury (or strong potential for it), I do completely agree with what you are saying about the "I was drunk" excuse.
    If you act like an ass when you're drunk, you are probably an ass when you are sober. If not, it was right under the surface waiting to come out.
    If you did something really dumb when you were drunk, you would have thought about it when you were sober.

    You may be drunk, but you are still you.

    And now, back to wrestling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBloodLion View Post
    To stand up for Ruth, here are a couple updates:
    He had no alcohol in his system.
    He was trying to get into the bar because that was the only place he could find a pay phone (didn't have his cell)
    He was the only one listed as being struck or punched

    I still think something bizarre was going on with the Long scenario, but I don't know enough to comment.
    Are the Ruth updates facts, where are you finding this? If so why was he charged with anything...I'm hoping he is innocent of everything, he doesn't seem like a troublemaker.

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    Penn State wrestler charged with buying alcohol for underage teammates

    By Mike Dawson
    Posted: 6:18pm on Sep 8, 2011; Modified: 8:40am on Sep 9, 2011


    Penn State's Bryan Pearsall (top) takes down Illinois's Daryl Thomas during Friday night's match at Rec. Hall in State College. Pearsall edged Thomas, 13-12, and Penn State defeated Illinois, 24-11. (For the CDT/Steve Manuel)Buy Photo

    A Penn State wrestler is charged with buying alcohol on the Fourth of July for three of his teammates, who were each issued a citation for underage drinking in connection with the incident.
    Bryan T. Pearsall, 21, of Lititz, faces two misdemeanor counts of selling or furnishing liquor or malt or brewed beverages to minors from the incident. He waived his right to a preliminary hearing in Centre County Court on Wednesday.
    According to the state police?s Bureau of Liquor Control Enforcement, an officer saw Pearsall drive up to Beer Belly?s Distributor in State College around 1:45 p.m. July 4, take money from three male minors who were in the car, and buy two cases of beer and put them in his trunk. Police said they later observed the three minors drinking the beer.
    The minors were identified as Nicholas A. Fischer, 21, of Kennett Square; Samuel P. Sherlock, 20, of West Mifflin; and James L. Vollrath, 20, of Richboro. Fischer was 20 at the time.
    Fischer, Sherlock and Vollrath were issued summary citations for underage drinking, police said. Online court documents show that Sherlock was admitted into a youthful offenders program. Fischer and
    Vollrath are awaiting a summary trial on Sept. 16.
    All four wrestlers are listed on Penn State?s current roster. Pearsall opened 2010-11 as the Nittany Lions? starting 133-pounder before losing his job to Andrew Long, Vollrath wrestled at 165 pounds during the postseason and Fischer competed at multiple weights. Sherlock, a former PIAA Class AAA champion, redshirted last season.



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