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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Interesting question for Jensen. Looking at your original picks for 125, you had Obe in 4th. Now you have him as missing AA. What has changed?
    Nothing really, just reshuffling things a little bit. Stuck Nickerson back in, and decided to go with some other guys once I looked at their resumes from last year.

    I think Obe is a great wrestler and as a former AA and given the fact that hes being coached by John Smith an AA finish from him wouldn't surprise me in the least. Picking nothing but former AA's though is kind of boring.

    In terms of being tough on Iowa, I've given them 6 AA's (and there will be a seventh coming when I break down heavy) and 2 champions out of 9 weights.

    I know every Iowa fan expects DOMINATION (said in Tom Brands voice) and ten national champions but I can't see what I'm not giving them that they definitely deserve.

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    Like the Cowboys, I also think that the Gophers will do better than their preseason ranking for the same reasons: Young talent and coaching.
    Expecting 10 champions and getting 10 champions are different things. I expect to improve my prediction ability, but it's not happened so far.

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    Just as a quick note, I didn't criticize you for being hard on Iowa...just for being a homer on Minny.
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    I was responding to grapplefan with that section about my placement of Iowa guys.

    A sort of killing two birds with one post if you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Just as a quick note, I didn't criticize you for being hard on Iowa...just for being a homer on Minny.
    Yeah, good thing I'm not a homer ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    I was responding to grapplefan with that section about my placement of Iowa guys.

    A sort of killing two birds with one post if you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    I know every Iowa fan expects DOMINATION (said in Tom Brands voice) and ten national champions but I can't see what I'm not giving them that they definitely deserve.
    Ha the Tom Brands voice makes the word all the more powerful...

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    I didn't know there was a way to say "domination" in a voice other than Brands'
    You do the math..... I'll do the alfredo!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

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    Finishing things up...

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    1. Scott Steele
    2. Jared Rosholt
    3. Kyle Massey
    4. David Zabriskie
    5. Mark Ellis
    6. Dan Erekson
    7. John Wise
    8. Zach Hammond

    I've mentioned this before, but judging by the uproar that went up when he went off our Fantasy Draft board I'm not the only one of the opinion that Scott Steele is going to be pretty good this year. His best wins last year were his two over his teammate and eventual 3rd place finisher Ed Prendergast. He also had two wins over Gritter, a tech fall over Zach Hammond and then other wins over Trice, and Mike Spaid.

    Rosholt really impressed me at the end of the year last year when he started to turn things around on Zabriskie with wins in the Big 12 finals, and the consi semi's at NCAA's after losing to him four times in a row. Other than the two wins over Zabriskie last year he also had wins over Dom Bradley, Hammond, Gritter, Wise (x2), Ellis (x3), May, and Fields.

    Last year Massey had a dynamite regular season as he was the only guy to beat Dustin Fox at all last year, but then he kind of tailed off during the postseason but still managed to get his first AA finish. Other than the win over Fox last year he also had a pin over Zabriskie, and wins over Smith, Shaeffer, Sauer, Wise (x3 including a maj), Steele, Fields, Goff, Spaid, and Ellis

    Zabriskie continued his reputation as one of the better heavies in the nation that he'd established as a freshman last year despite still being one of the smallest guys out there. Last year he had wins over Fields, Shaeffer (x2), Gritter, Rosholt, Ellis (x2), May, Porter, and Massey. With super-frosh Eric Thompson in the room along with Ward, Varner, and Cael Z should still have an impressive stable to roll with, and with wins over two above him its entirely possible that he winds up in the finals. It'll be interesting though if he hits any rough patches if people start calling for Thompson to be yanked.

    Mark Ellis is another guy who may start having a shadow hover over him should he hit any rough patches this year in Dom Bradley. Ellis has proven to be tough though, hes a pinner and he managed to pull off a round of 12 finish last year. Last year his best win was a :54 pin over Prendergast, he also had wins over Wise (x2), Shaeffer, Hammond, and May.

    Assuming hes managed to get himself big enough Erekson should see a lot of success this year as one of the smaller active heavys like Zabriskie is. His only two losses last year were 3-2 to both Zabriskie and Dlagnev so he showed that he was right there with the bigger name guys. He was headed for a nice season as a sophomore before he tore up his shoulder, so he should continue with that this year.

    Wise had a solid season last year in making the round of 12, he should improve his spot by one this year. Last year he had wins over Bradley (x2), May (fall), Ellis, Fields, Goff, and Fendone.

    If I remember correctly Hammond had kind of an abreviated season last year due to injury but regardless of that fact he still managed to pull off some big wins over the course of the year. He beat Massey, Shaeffer, and Porter (x2).

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