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08-23-2008, 08:22 AM
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| | National Finalist
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Cejudo to Iowa? In the long run, I suspect that he would come out better financially with the college degree and a gold medal than a gold medal alone......and as far as parlaying his Medal into opportunities, let us remember the sad truth that this is wrestling..........and the majority of folks in the U.S. still think of wrestling as phony if they think of it at all..........He'll be able to make appearances at events for wrestlers, but I wouldn't count on him becoming Carl Lewis or Marylu Retten........
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08-23-2008, 09:32 AM
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| | Herbert DEC Askren 5-4
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Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Cejudo to Iowa? i don't know that wrestling a year (under the brands brothers) would hurt Henry's chances in London. Do you realize you are saying that wrestling 5 months of folkstyle will destroy his freestyle arsenal?
I agreed with Henry's choice to streamline his freestyling after high school and go directly to the OTC. But lets not forget about a college degree. I think many people have this strong misconception of how much money a guy will make off being an olympic champ. Maybe $80K.....for one year.....the kid is only 21. Lets not forget he has a long life to live.
I agree that an Olympic title is far and above an NCAA title. However, I don't know why the two have must be compared on the same playing field. If the boy wants to challenge himself......and oh dear god follow an olympic champ (Tom) and world champ (terry) to Iowa to take a crack at an NCAA title....he is really endangering his wrestling career (rolls eyes).
I think most of you are concerned with Cejudo's legacy....and its not yours to determine....it's his.
Would your level of respect increase if Cejudo won an NCAA title? Mine would....more so because he didn't have to prove himself. Maybe an NCAA title does add some value....even for those legacy preservers.
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08-23-2008, 09:44 AM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 2 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Cejudo to Iowa?
Originally Posted by Adolf Oliverbush With that olympic gold medal, I woud think that Henry could parlay it into lots of money making opportunities with speaking engagements, endorsements and business opportunities. Sure a degree is a nice thing to have, hell, just about everyone I know has one, but what do you need that for if you have an olympic gold medal?
I would like to see him slaughter Ness and some of the other top ranked guys in D1, but I would hope he makes a better decision for himself than college wreslting. | You haven't heard Cejudo speak and not to be mean but the only speaking engagement he will book is as a clown at a 5yr old b-day. Now he and his brother do clinics and such and that could be the way to go and even coaching but he is young. With 4 years until the next Olympics he could go to school and still be ready for London.
Plus not everyone can turn a gold medal into making money because the sport they participate in is not marketable. Bruce Baumgartner and John Smith have multiple golds and I don't think they made a ton of money off of it outside of coaching and clinics. The only Olympian that will make money off of his golds is Phelps and he will be irrelevant to the majority of us until the next Olympics. How relevant do you expect Cejudo to stay, when nobody outside of wrestling remembers that he even won the Gold just days after it happened. | | |
08-23-2008, 10:05 AM
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| | Herbert DEC Askren 5-4
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Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Cejudo to Iowa? atleast UGLY is starting to hear me out
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08-23-2008, 10:41 AM
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| | Chief Communist
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Cejudo to Iowa? While many athletes training at the OTC attend UCCS (University of Colorado-Colorado Springs), they're not competing in intercollegiate athletics. With the cynicism and distaste for international wrestling in this country, if Henry wanted any such "spotlight" following his gold, wrestling in college COULD do that, not to mention, bring added national media attention to whichever school he would attend. I'm sure there's been discussions about Iowa and the Brands-Brands thing is hard to overlook, even if you're thinking with a level head.
If Henry wrestled in college, media attention would likely increase with said athlete and said school. Then there's comparisons of past Olympians who might have done things similar, etc.
Think about the positives for the sport of wrestling if Henry wrestles in college. There's more than you might think.
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08-23-2008, 10:46 AM
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| | Herbert DEC Askren 5-4
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Originally Posted by Dart Shark
Think about the positives for the sport of wrestling if Henry wrestles in college. There's more than you might think. | YES! I understand the concerns, but don't have tunnel vision. Think about the benefits to Henry as an athlete and as an ambassador of the sport.
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08-23-2008, 11:08 AM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Cejudo to Iowa? I agree with Dart, but all the statements about him making more money if he wrestles in college is not accurate. Just because he tries to wrestle in college does not mean he will graduate, stay in college, or even be eligible to wrestle. He is not the smartest kid, even though he made some smart choices in going to the OTC. College recruits still need to maintain grades and schools are now looked at by overall GPA. I know any school would be willing to sacrifice a lower GPA to obtain a Olympic Champ, but that does not mean he will graduate and make more money than his Olympic Gold brought him. I think that he should try college and see how it goes, but I don't expect him to graduate before 2012.
I also think that which ever college he decides to go to (if he goes) will not only get 1 good recruit, but maybe 2-his brother Angel is sure to follow, they are inseparable. | | |
08-23-2008, 01:06 PM
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Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Cejudo to Iowa? How about Henry going to Iowa to become an Asst. Coach and train FS full time and attract other recruits to Iowa who want to go to college and have a chance at international success. It would not hurt to have an defending Olympic champ on the staff, even if he never wrestles another Folkstyle match.
He could work ona degree at the same time as well if he has the interest, plus it would drive Hawk fans crazy knowing that they have an Olympian with eligilbility who is not wrestling. | | |
08-23-2008, 01:27 PM
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| | The Molecular Man
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 3 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Cejudo to Iowa?
Originally Posted by ODH it would drive Hawk fans crazy knowing that they have an Olympian with eligilbility who is not wrestling. | Just thinking about it makes me giddy
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08-23-2008, 01:40 PM
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| | Olympic Champ
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 3 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Cejudo to Iowa?
Originally Posted by ODH How about Henry going to Iowa to become an Asst. Coach and train FS full time and attract other recruits to Iowa who want to go to college and have a chance at international success. It would not hurt to have an defending Olympic champ on the staff, even if he never wrestles another Folkstyle match.
He could work ona degree at the same time as well if he has the interest, plus it would drive Hawk fans crazy knowing that they have an Olympian with eligilbility who is not wrestling. | I believe even Iowa requires a degree in an assistant coach, but he could go as volunteer assistant coach.
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