Early Breakdown of 2009-2010 Oklahoma State Cowboys

JensenS · 05-26-2009, 09:39 AM

Another team like Minnesota getting a great influx of young guys next year including arguably the best one of any team (given how he wrestled both as a redshirt and then especially this spring) in Jordan Oliver.

I'll do a detailed breakdown later but anyone else is welcome to step up too.

125: Chris Notte
133: Jordan Oliver
141: Jamal Parks
149: Albert White
157: Neil Erisman
165: Alex Meade
174: Mike Benefiel
184: Clayton Foster
197: Alan Gelogaev
285: Jared Rosholt

Gantry · 05-26-2009, 10:42 AM

This lineup, which I've seen for Oklahoma State before, is REALLY dependent on a lot of guys cutting big time weight.

125 - Notte looked big at 133 and to my knowledge hasn't wrestled 125 at the D1 level

149 - White wrestled a couple tourneys at 157 last year

157 - Erisman Wrestled at 171 in high school! THough admittedly I don't think he had weight trouble at 157

184 - Foster has always been at 197, people say he's small for the weight but every year (including this one) he goes 211 at freestyle events with night before weigh-ins instead of 184.

197 - Gelogaev is a total unknown outside of the "kills Rosholt in the room" rumors and the fact he has never wretled below 211 so far, has he?

I'm not saying that this OSU lineup can't happen, but it takes a lot of guys cutting lots of weight - which may hurt them come tourney time.

ODH · 05-26-2009, 12:03 PM

OK State always seems to me to be a team where the wrestlers are cutting a ton of weight and not always succefully.
Dropping a weight class didn't help Brandon Mason last year when he went from an AA at to DNP. A couple years back Dan Friskhorn essentially seemed to defy the coach's orders and refused to wrestle at a lower weight class nad ened up having a good run at the higher class.

r.payton@att.net · 05-26-2009, 12:40 PM

I've never seen notte wrestle anything other than 133. Erisman never had trouble making 157 -Foster and ggsdkhg ??? That is a LOT of weight to cut . IU cuts too much and they suck ./Esco wrestled 135 in high school and I didn't recognize Walpole last me I saw him and I have known him since 7th grade .

JensenS · 05-26-2009, 01:24 PM

Notte's biggest advantage when it comes to possibly making the cut down to 125 is the fact that he's so short.

For him its going to kind of be a matter of whether or not he wants to get into the line up since it doesn't look like he'll be beating Oliver.

He can't make it maybe Smith puts Jon Morrison out in the 25 spot.

grapplefan · 05-26-2009, 01:38 PM

Lots of talent, but limited experience. Aren't the Pokes missing the seasoned, dependable, high-ranking seniors like Minnesota has in Ness and Schlatter?

Zapp Brannigan · 05-26-2009, 01:56 PM

I see people are stealing my shtick....hmmmmmm.

JensenS · 05-26-2009, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grapplefan

Lots of talent, but limited experience. Aren't the Pokes missing the seasoned, dependable, high-ranking seniors like Minnesota has in Ness and Schlatter?

They've got the older guys up top with Foster and Rosholt but I would agree with you that they don't have the senior leaders that Minnesota will have next year.

arm-spin · 05-26-2009, 07:11 PM

If it's the same Gelogaev as in this video it's a pretty good bet he'll tear it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KZjMKJH3ZA

LoSt · 05-27-2009, 01:52 AM

didnt the Russian guy lose in that video?

05-26-2009, 09:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
JensenS Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 13,713	Early Breakdown of 2009-2010 Oklahoma State Cowboys Another team like Minnesota getting a great influx of young guys next year including arguably the best one of any team (given how he wrestled both as a redshirt and then especially this spring) in Jordan Oliver. I'll do a detailed breakdown later but anyone else is welcome to step up too. 125: Chris Notte 133: Jordan Oliver 141: Jamal Parks 149: Albert White 157: Neil Erisman 165: Alex Meade 174: Mike Benefiel 184: Clayton Foster 197: Alan Gelogaev 285: Jared Rosholt

05-26-2009, 10:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
Gantry NCAA Champ Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,067	Re: Early Breakdown of 2009-2010 Oklahoma State Cowboys This lineup, which I've seen for Oklahoma State before, is REALLY dependent on a lot of guys cutting big time weight. 125 - Notte looked big at 133 and to my knowledge hasn't wrestled 125 at the D1 level 149 - White wrestled a couple tourneys at 157 last year 157 - Erisman Wrestled at 171 in high school! THough admittedly I don't think he had weight trouble at 157 184 - Foster has always been at 197, people say he's small for the weight but every year (including this one) he goes 211 at freestyle events with night before weigh-ins instead of 184. 197 - Gelogaev is a total unknown outside of the "kills Rosholt in the room" rumors and the fact he has never wretled below 211 so far, has he? I'm not saying that this OSU lineup can't happen, but it takes a lot of guys cutting lots of weight - which may hurt them come tourney time.

05-26-2009, 12:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
ODH World Champ Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 2,913	Re: Early Breakdown of 2009-2010 Oklahoma State Cowboys OK State always seems to me to be a team where the wrestlers are cutting a ton of weight and not always succefully. Dropping a weight class didn't help Brandon Mason last year when he went from an AA at to DNP. A couple years back Dan Friskhorn essentially seemed to defy the coach's orders and refused to wrestle at a lower weight class nad ened up having a good run at the higher class.

05-26-2009, 12:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
r.payton@att.net Olympic Champ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Danville .Indiana Posts: 4,092	Re: Early Breakdown of 2009-2010 Oklahoma State Cowboys I've never seen notte wrestle anything other than 133. Erisman never had trouble making 157 -Foster and ggsdkhg ??? That is a LOT of weight to cut . IU cuts too much and they suck ./Esco wrestled 135 in high school and I didn't recognize Walpole last me I saw him and I have known him since 7th grade .

05-26-2009, 01:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
JensenS Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 13,713	Re: Early Breakdown of 2009-2010 Oklahoma State Cowboys Notte's biggest advantage when it comes to possibly making the cut down to 125 is the fact that he's so short. For him its going to kind of be a matter of whether or not he wants to get into the line up since it doesn't look like he'll be beating Oliver. He can't make it maybe Smith puts Jon Morrison out in the 25 spot.

05-26-2009, 01:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
grapplefan NCAA Champ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,411	Re: Early Breakdown of 2009-2010 Oklahoma State Cowboys Lots of talent, but limited experience. Aren't the Pokes missing the seasoned, dependable, high-ranking seniors like Minnesota has in Ness and Schlatter?

05-26-2009, 01:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
Zapp Brannigan Olympic Champ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 5,753	Re: Early Breakdown of 2009-2010 Oklahoma State Cowboys I see people are stealing my shtick....hmmmmmm. __________________ Rest in Peace Adam Frey, you left us far too soon Brands: Metcalf! What is good in life? Metcalf: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

05-27-2009, 01:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
LoSt Ron Weasley Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,965	Re: Early Breakdown of 2009-2010 Oklahoma State Cowboys didnt the Russian guy lose in that video? __________________ Gold is an idiot.

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