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Old 05-15-2008, 03:39 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Sorry -- I didn't know this problem affected all races equally. I guess my concerns were misdirected so I will spread my compassion across all races equally.

You want it both ways now. On the one hand, race is not off-limits according to your paragraph below. But on the other hand, when someone speak of race, you throw in words like insinuation, flawed, and paint kind of an ugly picture for the original poster. You're the one hoisting the flawed race notion upon me (thank you very little) and my post didn't paint that picture; you took it there which isn't fair. I thought I was quoting some pretty verifiable facts and regurgitating what Bill said. If Bill's message wasn't wrong, what's wrong w/ me or anyone else repeating what he already said?

So let me get the rules straight; when exactly can we talk about race? Only in civil rights cases, but never when we're talking about crime, poverty, and births to single mothers? I need to know on a prospective basis as I'm not really in the mood to be scolded in public forums.

I listen to everyone on the radio and TV, however, your statement that MS, RL, and SH talk about race more than Jwright, ASharp, and JJack is silly. If any of those guys made disparaging remarks about a particular race, you know for a fact they would be off the air. This is especially true since all three have very large audiences with advertisers.

Originally Posted by matclone View Post
Your statement was predominantly colored with the notion that this is a black problem. It's a common notion.


Why the defensiveness? Why all the strawmen? No one called you or anyone else a racist, and I had no intention of insinuating the same. No one here called Bill Cosby a racist or an Uncle Tom, or said his message was wrong. No one here said a discussion of race was off-limits. I'm just critical of a certain notion and tried to make a distinction and turn the discussion to where I think it belongs.

Probably less so than Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity.

I'm sorry, the flawed race is all too often the insinuation. It's all over media, and people naturally pick up on it. My goal is simply to point this out where it occurs. I don't dislike you. You know how to carry on an intelligent conversation--and not everyone does. And you obviously have some education.

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