Thread: A question concerning the Double Grapevine (a.k.a. Saturday Night Ride)
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:17 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: A question concerning the Double Grapevine (a.k.a. Saturday Night Ride)
Originally Posted by Champ Kind View Post
You won't get it against top level opponents.
It happens all the time when guys either slip off a gut wrench or the top man knows how to defend it to force this position.
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